sharkhark

i am not going to say i "found it" from trying this tonite. we all know if you think you got this game you are in for a rude awakening soon. then u wont be able to hit a single shot. plus it is often we get a band aid or just a feeling that works. so all i will say is that i tried getting it out of my palm tonite. i didnt realize until i went to course and put down a club that i wasnt entirely in palm but i was not fully in the fingers of the left hand (im a righty) either. so i did that...plus the long left thumb advice and holy bejesus. i hit the ball straighter, lost my little hook thing that the ball does at the end. i could land as ball went higher and longer and with almost a slight fade (im a hooker). im used to landing ball and then it goes sideways to the left either a little or allot. this allowed me to land softly. my drives went straighter and longer. i had issues with aiming right and when no draw happened and iron and driver shots went powering straight...i turned my quick 9 after work into a practice because i had to adjust to aiming more at target...or gulp...left of target (us hookers will know how scary that is). it is just 9 holes....who knows long term...but i dont think a better foundational grip than my old one can be bad. it can only be good. i want to thank the op a ton. i will post in future after a few more rounds of 18 rather than this quick implementation. i didnt have range time until after so i need practice. it felt weird at first...all good changes must feel this way...as anything feeling normal is just old habits...but op i thank you. ps...i am a 9 handicap...good golfer...i did manage to par 6 out of the 9...holes...and only bogeyed the others due to hitting powerful straight shots...not my hooky ones...so that is pretty damn good. will update in next week or so.

Love this. I have always felt my grip was ok but not quite 100%. When taking lessons they always glossed over my request to ensure grip was perfect saying it looked fine. I'll try your suggestions tonight.

am I dreaming did I really read you try to compare the relationship between Phil and bones to Bubba and his caddy as anything similar you must be joking

Their outlet? Golf. Lol Ps but with a 3 week old dislocated shoulder.... Not me :(

Soooooo question? Why for so many does the fact that the caddie makes a huge profitable living off Bubba defend or explain away his behavior (bubbas) on course? So let's say someone rich approaches you and says I'd like to hire you I'm going to bring you around with me in public and I'm going to crap on you a little early drop my pants and crap right on your face I will curse you I will berate you I will probably beat and humiliate you but guess what I'll pay you a million dollars a year does that mean it's still okay obviously I'm not saying that's exactly what Bubba's done to this guy but explain away rude belittling behavior where he whines and complains and puts all the faults on the county's shoulders so often on TV I'm sorry I don't care that the guy gets compensated well yes he could quit obviously he chooses to do it but to defend Bubba in anyway I'm sorry to me he's got fantastic talent Inc and hip amazing shots but the guy is a jerk

i dont get people even caring what they wear....r u telling me you enjoy pro golf on the pga on the tv more or less depending on shorts vs pants? personally i watch the shots not their legs and whether i can see them or not. it is funny that women fought for and continue to fight to get equal rights of men...yet the pga forces men to wear pants in unbearable heat...while women get to wear what they want...and what they want is normally shorts. why can women wear them and men not? why does anyone care.....i say for sure it should be allowed. i and my friends cannot wait until the weather gets even the slightest bit warm enough to justify shorts and i dont go back to pants until season is almost over where i live. i stil wore shorts in cold weather the other day cuz air on my legs and the freedome of movement and comfort is important.

...you told me if we won this...i would get some tongue...now pucker up you old cutie!!!

what he said :( they used to not put who can enter on golfwrx contests then i emailed a mod one time and asked if they can put front and center whether loyal cdn fans etc can enter or not to make it clear...they were nice and listened and now in the subject line it clearly will say open to____ so you know. i would have gladly paid the extra coin for added shipping costs had i won ....

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i dont get why so many liken this situation to the real world of stealing an employee or hiring someone away...its not the real world..its not the corporate world...in corporate you can get away with anything legal...in golf we call penalties on ourselves? trying to liken the two as one in the same is an epic fail. if it is stated on tv and in press that pga players have an unspoken code....that requires a player to call another to show his interest in a caddie then...then...that is the code. do i think in real life you try and snag without the other knowing...a good employee ?....yes...of course. So in my reason of thought i get that tiger did nothing wrong....but i am not in the golf world...and the golf world tells me thats how its done...there are certain curticies and protocols i am not privy too, that are do's and don'ts......and apparently taking one guys caddie from another with not a word....is a improper move. is this a soap opera? of course. but for all us hackers to say what was right or wrong is a waste of time. The pga has a code of what to do that is right and wrong...it is not on paper..but players know it and its simple...tiger doesnt care and does what he wants and it is not going to change him or others views of him. he is what he is. but what he did...according to the pros...not me...the pros...was wrong etiquette.

what he said. the par 3 was the choke. you see that the only guy with a good chance of beating you has 3 jacked over par and you put it in the water? when he was hitting draw shots all day? then fades into drink? choke.

hmm? i know i have been told i grip too tight and i have tremendous discomfort and at times pain, in my right hand and a bit in forearm. if you are telling me a glove could actually improve that, even a little, then i would love to try one.

you are pretty sure you remember him saying that...where...in person? come on. why would a teacher in the business who has coached both of them say that...it is completely silly. i did a search on harmon and those words, quote etc. and i must admit i found. ....one..and only one reference...it was a thread on sandtrap..oh..thats right...the one by poster...thats it. harmon has class and would not say such crap about a student he taught.

sorry..........but butch never said that about two of his students.........he has too much class.

yeah, you were one of the genius's...with amazing powers to judge based on looks alone. Figures you would jump back in. Some come to legitimately talk golf and some are just flamers.What a waste of time.

so i have been a long time fan of the website but i have made no more than a handful of posts in threads, nor have i read much on here. I come for the articles and equip reviews etc. If i want forums i have a local site in canada called torontogolfnuts and a website in US called golfwrx. I wanted to give this one a chance, but this being one of the very few threads i have read quickly went juvenile on the first page...a bunch of guys starting off bashing bubba...which i kind of a agree with in this particular case as he should have known to shut it...keep it to himself....but otherwise i normally like the dude.... ..but then i see on first page some idiots commenting on how stupid dustin johnson is...? huh...how did he get into the conversation as a target to beat up on...and how he has a look in his eyes...that some said they can tell shows his level of intelligence. WTH? you can judge someone based on looks? because he is from the south and has a bit of a drawl and a sleepy look like 90% of the people down there have that automatically shows some genius's he is a moron? man...dont think if this is the level of commentary i will be spending much time on these forums. i will stick to the great site on its own. not cool to me.

Quote: Originally Posted by Quinn07 I have size 12 and I find that a lot of golf shoes feel narrow when I put them on. These don't have that feeling what so ever. I haven't had the opportunity to play a round with them yet, but I will be playing at least once next weekend and I will post and update then. Hi there, came across these and did not know of them...look good. I have a question on size. have you worn them for a round yet? I am unsure of which size, some say in reviews they are spot on and some say they are a bit big. I am always between a size 11.5 and 12. Adidas feel narrow in toe box so i often get 12 but wondered which size to get in these and not only do you own them you have a somewhat similar shoe size. thanks

i i was playing a tourney we invented several years ago...i knew it was to be my day when at one hole i missed left of green with tree and sand in way..i lobbed a shot over the tree and hit stick and dropped in hole....but that was just a sign that this not so good 12 hdcp would have a good day.. ...so we all ran into each other at back up after hole 9 and it was my honors to tee of in front of everyone...i topped the tee shot only 50 yards short of some water...they laughed...i red faced rushed up and tried to hit a fairway shot to make up for lack of distance of driver...and barely hit it over the creek...they were rolling in laughter...steamed...i went with partner in cart to ball just barely over creek and swung mightily watching it sail into the distance towards a pond...sure enough..water bound...with such a former flukie good round going i was figuring it was time to start going south in my game...that was when i dropped a ball....about 160 from green and hit a 7 iron that went straight for middle..and rolled..and rolled...disappearing...for a bogey 5.when i won the event by one single stroke...later that day i was challenged by friends who saw my horrible hole 10 and claimed they couldnt believe i got a bogey...but my friend who saw it happen and pulled the ball from hole vouched for me.

Quote: Originally Posted by zeg Quote: Originally Posted by sharkhark for example in football a player might try to get a way with a hold...that semi cheating is cheating but part of the game..in golf it appears that an innocent mistake should be allowed to be influenced by someone calling in. This difference between football and golf is a beautiful thing about golf and an unfortunate, bordering on disgusting, feature of football. That the mistake was innocent is mostly irrelevant. Do you really want to see golf turn into everyone bending the rules just shy of breaking them they way football players do? That's what you're asking for. Quote: Originally Posted by BigMikey People getting DQ'd after rounds are over for balls moving 1.5 dimples back are not knee jerk reflex's. It's simply golfers in a community saying enough of the BS, you loosing the whole spirit of the original game. Now if you place a ball back by your marker it has to be exactly in the spot to the dimple. Come on man... freaking ridiculous! You seem to misunderstand the spirit of the original game. Rule 1-1: The Game of Golf consists of playing a ball with a club from the teeing ground into the hole by a stroke or successive strokes in accordance with the Rules . So yes, you need to replace the ball in exactly the same spot the best you possibly can. If your ball moves other than by a stroke, unless there's a rule that says otherwise, you need to take a penalty. The DQ here is about as close to the original spirit of the game as you can be. wow. you must be a reporter.........love how you took a small portion of what i actually wrote and quoted and made what i actually said into something completely different.. funny how the line below was conveniently deleted from your quote of me. nice try to be misleading.......next time dont cut an paste to create something so wrong.... when a game i love like nfl is influenced by a missed call..it dont bother me and it would not in golf. if i thought the guy purposely cheated? sure.

well the football player who had a hold and was not seen gets away with it? the baseball player who missed the tag but gets credit for an out gets it...so why doesnt the golfer? keeping in mind almost every time i see a golf incident it is quite obvious that the player innocently made a mistake whereas for example in football a player might try to get a way with a hold...that semi cheating is cheating but part of the game..in golf it appears that an innocent mistake should be allowed to be influenced by someone calling in. i say...and so do most pga players...the ones who do this for a living...not you and i talking in a chat section...most say...let the drama on the field take place...players and rules officials on the course make decisions and if something is missed...its missed. when a game i love like nfl is influenced by a missed call..it dont bother me and it would not in golf. if i thought the guy purposely cheated? sure. but does anybody honestly thing dustin tried to cheat? no. nobody in sound mind thinks that. do they thing that poulter tried to drop his ball on coin on purpose? no. these are accidents. i think once the tourney is underway the homies at home should watch, enjoy and not influence the game.

i thought golf was a game of honesty and integrity and we police ourselves? if that is the main contention of how we differ from other sports, why is it ok to allow someone else to call in? either we agree that players police themselves....or...if you dont agree that they do and we need or allow others to influence it..then that self policing is out the window. when i am watching a shot on tv...i only see that one guy...is it fair that there could in theory be 100 other guys who never get shown and could have done an infraction but are not recorded? i think golf is self policing. if i play alone and nudge a ball...i know i cheated...if a player unwittingly makes a minor mistake and a rules official notices it or someone at a tourney then fine....but allowing those at home. i dont agree. there is no point in discussions if one is not allowed to have the other side of the argument and its clear some are so into rules that they take relish in pointing out mistakes...trust me i have played with helpful people. i have also played with those that practically dance a jig at knowing the rules inside out and pointing anything out......i only play with them once......then i move on. knowledge is helpful...taking such delight in calling in infractions is in my mind lame. that guy who claimed a month ago he did not want to push it or to boost his ego is lying. he didnt just send one email he made emails and calls a couple times over. that is someone tooting their own horn. even in the interviews i hear most players showing disgust at the fact people are calling in. so if the players feel that way, i agree.

you contradict yourself...you say players are responsible for calling penalties on themselves...but then you say it is ok for people at home on the couch to call in. which is it? either players are responsible themselves...or their not..you cant have it both ways. answer this? if i see in a replay that a player missed a tag in baseball....can i call in...after the game..or heck..during the game...and tell someone to go back and change an outcome? your anwer:__________ if your anser to the space above...is no..then why different for golf? reason? its wrong. no need to answer...each time you carefully answer in a way to avoid my main contentions....do any other sports allow anyone to call in and change something that is missed? no. you say those games have refs...ok...so why is it when they miss something i cannot call in and say hey..change game 6 of the world series as a tag was missed...i cannot.........so if they have refs why dont they allow it? cuz it makes no sense. anyhow...moving on. you never answered those questions..although i notice you like to say asked and answered alot...even when you dont.......bowchickabowwow.

its just a name, but its all the same. none of those let you overrule an umpire by calling in...or jump on the ice to change a goal..but why golf? its silly. every time i bring up the fact that no other sport does it...people are unable to adquately explain why golf does.

Quote: Originally Posted by sacm3bill Allow me to sum up this (and the Paddy-specific) thread Point: Viewers should be able to call in infractions. Counterpoint: No they shouldn't, because some lazy couch-sitting cheetos-eatin' high-handicapper bastard shouldn't affect the outcome of a professional tournament! Point: So you're ok with someone getting away with a rule infraction simply because an official at the scene didn’t see it? Counterpoint [Ok, I better change my argument]: Well they shouldn't be DQ'd over one, that's for sure! Point: Even though any DQ is easily avoidable by simply knowing the basic rules and following well estabished procedures (consulting with an RO, for example) that 99.99% of the golfers 99.99% of the time know to do? Counterpoint [Oops, better change my argument again]: Well it shouldn't be illegal to nudge the ball a bit when it's in play, because no one ever puts their ball back exactly where they marked it anyway! Point: So you want to make it legal in the rules of golf to nudge the ball to a different position even though it means the guy you're playing the tournament against this weekend can now use that technique to get around an imperfection in the green? Counterpoint: But they can already do that by putting it in a different position when they place it! Point: Uh, actually the guy who is on suspension right now is proof that you *can't* get away with that. Counterpoint: ---sounds of crickets chirping--- Someone (Hi Sean) please correct me if I have anything wrong. ...sooooo are you telling me that rules infractions don't happen in any other sport? that missed calls even ones done innocently and unnoticed by participants doesnt happen in every single sport? so if they allow those games and outings to move on unhindered why does golf alone...allow a cheesie eating goofball to determine the outcome of a game when every single other sport...i repeat...every...other sport...does not allow this behaviour? or are you trying to enable those that lift their noses at golf and claim its not a sport? i guess you are. because all other sports would never allow this nonsence.