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300y is long. The question for me, trackman verified? I dont mind people telling they are long, question is always can they play the game and stay in fairways. I am 5 clubs longer than I was 3 years ago and all due to improved technique. as I like to say, plenty long for the game I want to play.

Ballcontact and then ball flight shows you the answer. if you cant do that no concept will help you. Make solid contact, and hit good shot, your then highly likely to do things right. People confuse themselves more than anything.

he is average atm.

50% wins or 3 majors a year or such then we can talk.

"Feel" is built with variation hitting shots with focus and attending the feedback from those shots with criteria as impact and flight.. really simple. I find golf a game of bad instructions with a lot of theory. I find it more to become video and to look right and loose the athletic edge. When I talk to good golfers means scratch or + index, they have themselves little knowledge about what their body does in their swing. Turning to a golf guru or doing what their teacher tells them to do is then easy even for them to do and create all kinds of compensations and flaws and they can still play with it. Just not so consistent. The amateurs seldom take the time to work trough their own swing due to thinking they should do it simply. I dont agree necessarily they need to understand the swing, but to understand when they do things right at impact and what to use as feedback. Swing thoughts isnt needed, nor is loosing the athletic portion of the motion which has become an effect aftr David Leadbetters work with Faldo. As I do swing, and also dosnt look textbook video theory I get a lot of suggestions "what to do" so I ask them to hit a shot, they cant hit the target, so I go, seems I can do that so I continue with what I do then. ;) Lot of good ideas inside instruction but it has been watered down so the player dont know what they mean.

welcome to cheating the rules and win better strategy.

agree. I was a short hitter, I re-worked my technique and now hit it long. way more fun.

yup ;) Ballstriking is important, I normally hit 70% fairways but that wont help if I am to short. Its a balance but I rather be long and wild than short and accurate. its easier to fix the wildness than add distance :D

distance when enough is then all about accuracy. I was a short hitter and now are 4 clubs longer and way longer with drive. Now, its time for consistency and tempo to suit the distance for my game. Hitting it short simply isnt fun.

making a swing change takes time. find someone who is good and work with it for a longer time. lessons from someone good is always a good thing however to find a good trainer can be hard. My current re-tooling is 5 months on with daily work at home and range. Now after 5months things have gotten where I wanted them to be.

My feet tells me that adidas shoes are nr1.

no short cuts, proper technique with good release is needed. distance can be due to clubs is different due to loft also. I am about 4 clubs longer today than I was 4 years ago all due to improved technique and release. where I once hit a 6i I now can use a PW or 9i.

2 times 74 last year. (+3) with a swing that basically was 30+. time to go lot lower this year.

You need a good strategy. Matching the progress vs a tour pro with for example trackman combine shows how good you are. I dont believe in the talent talk people have due to many who simply dont do things right. Dan can make it even with current approach but I dont see the skill increase yet that should be there judging by his game. If he is not improving just shows he needs a better practice plan. I expect him to increase the skill increase by 2 times if he did it right.(he havent) so, yea with a better coach he be better off with the current time spent in practice.

Do you need 10k hours to become an expert alone? You need a good strategy and improvement plan. You also need good evaluation skills of the progress your making and matching that agaisnt the needed skills requried of the Pro level. I dont take note Dan is doing that currently.

He is dedicated and severly needs a better plan. He isnt consistent enough at his level. seeing him hitting 3 balls and all over the course shows he needs a better coach and plan.

Exactly. take a 4i to a pw and make green on a par 3 with all of them. its called shotmaking for a reason. Even if people here would match the distance or be longer, they be shooting 20shots more on the same type of course at least. I am longer than the average pga with irons but distance is only needed to have it long enough, then its all about accuracy and consistency and go low. People simply need to measure them with better players, but today a pga teaching pro have no chance vs a pga pro on their home course. the game has changed the last 15 years.

Most amateurs overate their distance. Playing golf isnt as much about distance as accuracy and consistency. However its easier to measure distance vs distance to state how one does agaisnt their peers. I like to say, I hit it long enough to make the course easy.

focus. Moe Norman swung to target but only in his mind. His swing didnt follow that. after all the swing is a an arc and lateral action. In basket the player focus on target, how the ball goes there is different.

All that matters is, make good impact. shot lower than the other guys. collect check. smile. the guys commenting have no clue.

All hands on deck. Agrees Purpose with variation. Feel is the if you want to be fancy the sensation from the vestibular sense that measure your moving trough space with your body limbs. Focus produce experience specific to context. Swing thoughts and how people also teach the swing tends to be hard to move away from those thoughts. The moment you find your practice swing feel you shift focus and if your able to become aware of it (where focus shifts), then your able to be even more able to play that way. Then greatness awaits. Currently the guy in the video hit the driver around 300-310. some might wonder about his distance

No argument from me. I am a hands on guy. Video and the secret isnt my area. I have no issues teaching this approach to someone who done things for 30 years and still would be 28 handicap they could get down to scratch if they so desired. Golf instruction dosnt impress me much. I disagree due to you have to organize the brain somehow and doing so with "swing to target" is superior to any other approach. Without the constant progress is slowed down either it be a low or high handicap player.

well cap, I ask about ambition level. Asking how he would want to hit the ball. what kind of stuff he wants to be able to do. Then ask him to define it. What golfers does is to think I need to fix this problem (slice) ask in forums, and then it wont work that good. (junkies/swingcrack) Most never define how they want to hit the ball and how they want to swing. I spend a lot of time there before doing any suggestions. I also would need video to have any clue to suggest anything. If he does a modern swing, I would tell him to change it to a classical one, personal favorite is Mike Austin but Nicklaus, Michelson etc..works also. Most wouldnt wanna do that which is fine. I dont work with amateur golfers who does the modern swing due to its to much to fix there and it will lead to back issues. I had golfers who said, I slice and such, so I ask what kind of shot do you do when you dont slice? and they show me. so I say, that isnt a slice, case closed. If its a over the top move, slide your hips first as suggested by a thread here, and hit an imaginary spot behind/outside right foot with the clubhead coming down. That would force a proper downswing and turn late which likely would feel off at first. Feel and perception is a present feeling based upon the percived sensations currently used in the swing (working or not). If someone slices, it can have a number of causes and to suggest a fix is kinda hard to do. The golfer wants to fix the slice but I want them to define a proper and working swing before they even starts the practice. Until that is happening, I dont ask them to practice at all. The brain needs direction where to go. I might ask, so what kind of player are you? What kind of swing do you want to be able to do? When you swing the way you want in 3 months time how is that like for you? etc....definition first. I dont give internet advice normally due to there is little to no quality of control over the process there. Fixing the slice is the wrong focus. Fixing the over the top or any other cause, is the wrong focus. Swing to target assumes your able to define where to go first and what that is like and then engage into deliberate practice. Playing violin and some music piece has well defined standard when your doing it right. My sisters kid practice with me he is 20 years old. He is 36+ handicap and never practice except with me. With him I give him a point to focus and ask him to do that with enough variation until he built a reference base.(he dont have that) He is able to have good impact now with accuracy that keeps him in play. Instead of fixing all the things he did wrong, I ask him to build a reference base doing things right and take note when he did things right. One practice he hit 60 balls fat , way behind the ball. He took a break, and came back, so I said do this focus on delaying the release and the second shot he hit was so well struck the ball took off 40 yards longer. I smiled and said, that is proper impact. The next practice, he hit the ball with great impact from the start. even though he failed 60 times or more, once he had the feel of a proper impact he knew where to go. So, fixing the slice isnt the thing to focus on, but how do you want to swing and make the ball fly? Until you define that you will likely struggle a lot a long time. Doing the same thing that makes the ball slice instead of starting to do things that are new to build new feel and perceptions is what I teach. I do that with Golf pro´s due to them are often just able to play but have no idea how they do things since they developed the swing as a kid. I asked him to hit the same shot with 3 different clubs, the same distance and the same shape, and he couldnt do that. I said, Hogan could, and others can, and 40 minutes later he was able to do it also. I guess dropping Hogans name made it work...

Fear not there is wind ahead captain. If you drive a car to work, and one day they do construction work and you need to change the road to get to work in time, would you hope that you make the change then? That you be stuck in traffic beacuse you cant use another road? calling your boss telling them you cant turn around and go another route - Not likely. You learned to speak and walk and run and even tie your shoelashes and a few hundred other things and never worried you would learn those right? Each swing you do, make a small adjustment, then make a new swing make another adjustment, and 15 swings later with full focus on each adjustments, you just did 15 variations. If your focus is on the external reference on the outside to target, the body will take care of whatever you do. You dont change your muscle memory, it has nothing to do with the swing and technically there is no muscle memory, there are simple and complex reflexes. Ben Hogan spent a few hours hitting balls, but he hit one ball, smoke a cigarett and thought about what did happen during that swing, and then he hit another. Ben trained his vestibular system and mapped what his body did during motion. Hitting one ball was a 5 minute deal or so for him. Hitting and mapping. Does this work? In Hungary they work with kids and adults who has cerebal palsy, its a neurological disease where the body cant do things like open or closing a hand, or even walk due to the brain cant control the legs. Their subconsious is tired...right? What they do is running a 2 week 12 hour a day crude physical and move the patients legs with great precision and exactly the same way if they cant walk and they work in shift, 2 weeks 12 hour a day and they do a few of those in 6 months, the kid who the doctors said will never walk ever in their life can suddenly take control over their legs. why? Their brain now consiously can note, that signal is how the legs should move and then they can just do it. (Doctors hate that) The Talent code book shows that talent is grown due to high intensity practice on the task, which most never do, they in essence fail more than succced. Success is the ability to go trough a lot of failure to make sure your able to do the thing you desire. So if the myth of muscle memory would be true then that approach wouldnt work since your doing more failure than success right? Still it does work. Studies shows that experts spend half their practice time in high intensity focus which the more average performer dont. The brain works with patterns, if you dont do enough variation in your practice and get out of your comfort zone and challenge just beyond your current level, then you dont grow. You need comparisons, if you dont have enough variation then how would you know what pattern to do? I meet junior golfers who are ruined by their coaches. They spend hours upon hours hitting the same shot without doing much variation and then they dont improve much. There isnt much mystical force here, that you hope to improve or mysterious unconsious, your basically waiting things out until your body starts to produce the desired action by doing enough variation with highly intense deliberate practice. You be suprised how easy it is once your able to do it. Most people are information junkies, this applies to golfers also, they want information they believe will make a sudden change in their life. So they collect and collect, and know more, but when asked to use the knowledge and challenge their own comfort zone things suddenly breaks down in spite of their knowledge. Fear, anxiety, worrying, and other emotions surface and they go back to their comfort zone and delete out the new approach due to it will alter their swing and game so much. I spent 3 weeks in Spain last year with golfers just under european tour level and it was obvious they didnt practice this way. Why would you think about what your body is doing as a golf coach teach? To use video to make a tiny angle in the wrists? That is so complicated and hard to do and that is why people like Monte Scheinblum who once won long driving and played great golf became lost in swingcrack. There is a lot more of similiar cases like him out there. I assume you know where to go captain both at sea and in golf and learning the swing and playing the game. if not, its easy to be lost out there. Thanks for asking

You can either focus on external event (target) or what your body does during the swing. That applies to both range practice and playing a course. If you dont know the difference between those you will struggle. The practice you do are set up to be as similiar as your playing game. In the Golf Pro, he used the same target as he did with his old swing and added the new setup, then the hips motion and release as to happen by waiting them out. Your brain is a pattern machine, which basically means the brain catch patterns and then repeats those, the nuances of those patterns are however subtle so people cant do them with what you would call consious effort the common way people learn the swing and practice. Your using Intention, discovery by utlilizing the way your brain learned as a kid. I dont spend much time with amateurs due to their comfort zone is tedious at best. Doing the above, swing to target you focus on external events moving away from internal sensations that will later be there if you use practice with short high intensity duration. All supported by brain science if you wonder, what Golf gurus normally does isnt. Practice like this cuts down the time spent learning by a lot due to the brain is doing things not the muscles (common belief). You need to add variation in your practice when you swing to target until you built enough associations to the skill and knowledge you already have. Means a pro can do this faster than an amateur due to a more time spent in golf with practice. Skills are moved from the hippocampus to outer cortex meaning the brain actually physically moves information once it is learned like riding a bike, driving a car, tying shoe lashes. (shown by science) The skill then is contextual (swing) which if isolated in practice, becomes the overall organization format when playing golf. Tweaking or adding a new motion into the old context makes the skill being transfered to already a organized format. For the pro, being used to what his old swing did, once he could go out and play on the course became suprised how straight he now did hit shots. His perceptions and beliefs about his performance was based on previous swing motion and once he could trust the result which took 5 playing rounds he now plays better than ever with a new swing. 5 weeks in. Thanks for asking.