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To answer your question. Not unless I'm on a range where I can see the ball flight myself.

Par 4's driven this year. (On the green or fringe) 338 yards to a green with water running directly along the right side and bunkers across the left. Trees directly in front of the green. The design intends for you to lay up along the fairway (which runs to the right side of the pond), then to pitch over the water to the green. Drove the ball to the center of the green and it rolled about 5' past the hole. Two putted for birdie. Slight wind at my back. High long draw. 320 yards straight on. Absolutely no risk for going after it. The hole is a bit of a joke. Landed the ball at the front of the green and it rolled to within 4" of the hole. Tap in Eagle. (driven multiple times) 312 yards straight on. Very tight fairway with houses running along the right side and a mountain running along the left. (driven multiple times) 290 yards downhill. This hole is a little trickier than it sounds because there is a pond directly in front of the green. If you hit a drive in the 250 yard range you risk rolling into that pond. You have to carry about 275 yards to clear the water. (driven multiple times) 280 yards with a very slight dogleg left. The fairway is no wider than 15 yards at its widest point and there are thick trees running the entire way on each side. The fairway slopes pretty aggressively to the right and if you lay up you risk the ball rolling behind a tree. I honestly have not figured out how to play this hole. I typically hit a high draw over the green and chip back for birdie or par here. The green slopes heavily away from you so even if you lay up, you risk a tough pitch shot. 360 yards with a slight dogleg right. This fairway is extremely wide open. There is no risk at all for going for it here. The ground is usually hard this time of year so if you hit a fade to about 320 you have a chance of rolling it on. I got the ball up in the air on a high fade and let the wind do the rest of the work the one time I drove this green. 288 yards straight on with bunkers on each side of the green. I hit a low pull fade that landed in front of the green and rolled to 3' past the hole. Made the easy eagle. (driven multiple times) 292 yards uphill. There is a large tree to the front left of the green preventing you from hitting a fade to the green. There is a large fairway bunker about 250 yards up so ideally you would carry the ball about 265-270 yards with a draw (or straight) and roll it to the green. (driven multiple times) 265 yards straight on with bunkers to the left and right of the green as well as directly behind it. This is very narrow green only about 12' wide but fairly deep. I usually hit my 3wood here because if you go over the green you are in trouble. 410 yards downhill. Everything was working to my advantage here. I had a strong wind at my back, the fairways were rock hard, and I was hitting from an elevated tee box. My drive landed about 50 yards short of the green and rolled all the way to the fringe. While technically this isn't a driven green, I still putted from the fringe.

I had the exact same setup / situation. I went with at 19* hybrid.

GolfLogix has a free 24 hour demo period, you might give that a shot. Personally it was too slow for me and the distances seemed to be off 10-15 yards on some holes.

Distance and trajectory were very good for me. I couldn't get used to the sound though.

Elaborate?

No offense, but your smash factor is horrible for your handicap (for any handicap actually). You should try slowing your swing down a bit and work on hitting closer to the center of the clubface.

The furthest I've holed out from was just a 30 yard pitch shot. I was about 2" away from holing out a 322 yard drive earlier this year though.

I've searched as well, they do not make one.

It's simply not possible. The highest ball speed you can expect to achieve with a clubhead speed of 105 is 155mph, and that's with absolute perfect contact. To answer your question, those numbers are not carry distances, they are total.

I prefer hitting my 3i over any fairway wood or hybrid I've ever hit. I wish mizuno made a 2i in the mp57s.

You're friends are probably just hitting it too low.

I used to be that guy. A) It was the only club I could hit consistently. B) I liked to show off a little. I rarely hit more than 5-10 balls with the driver on the range nowadays.

Think this may be an example of being unfamiliar with actual distances (no offense, I've been there) With optimum launch angle, and a perfect smash factor, I don't see a 105mph SS hitting longer than 285 without some crazy wind or cart path interaction. And thats an absolute perfect swing. Usually when folks accuse me of hitting one 340, it's closer to 290 or 300. I could be wrong about the NFL guy, but your friends numbers don't match up.

Shot an 85 on a course I've never played before. 73.3 / 122 I drove the ball extreme well, my approach shots were money, and I had 9 three putts. Absolute worst putting display I've had since I was a 20+.

Two so far this year. Both in my second season! :) The first was a 322 yard par 4. My drive landed on the front of the green and rolled up to within 3" of the hole for a tap in. The second came on a 310 yard uphill par 4. My drive landed on the front of the green and rolled past hole. I then sank a 4' downhill putt. I've had about dozen more Eagle putts this year, however most of them have been from 10' or further.

I think folks gets too caught up on swing speed and often swing shafts that are stiffer than they really need. If you are hitting accurately with a reg flex, continue hitting it. Don't let internet numbers dictate what you should be swinging.

+1 I can't even accurately hit a fairway wood or hybrid. I'll take a 3i over both. I'm losing 10-15 yards max and I'm able to control my shot. I just keep them in my bag for decorative purposes.

Sean, I don't believe anyone is saying it is impossible. Just highly unlikely. I've been lurking this forum since I started golfing last May and my opinion has flip flopped a bit. This will probably be my last and only post on this subject. Like you, I was naturally a long hitter with my driver even from the beginning. I was the kid you would see on the range hitting a large bucket of balls with his driver 4 days a week. The only action my irons saw were when they were topping shots on the course. With my athletic background, swinging the driver at high speeds felt natural for me. I can honestly say I would hit the ball 260+ 9 out of 10 drives as a 20+ capper. (At the time I thought I was much closer to 300+, but thats a different story). This does not mean I was hitting fairways, however I was making contact close enough to the sweet spot to produce this distance every single shot. I always felt personally attacked when I read these posts, specifically those from Shanks, however I've reached the point where I realize why there is so much skepticism. Now that my game has begun to improve (as have the quality of my playing partners), I've realized how rare it is for even low handicappers to be able to produce a 260+ yard drive every single time. I would venture to guess my average drive over the past two months is in the 275-285 range. That being said, even the "long hitters" at my club are a good 30-40 yards behind me most of the time. I've realized that if the "long guys" are hitting it 245-255 on average, then Shanks must be onto something with his assessment on driving distance. ps: perhaps there is a correlation with distance and rate of improvement? We've both dropped to similar handicaps in short periods of time and are claiming similar distance numbers.

Did it happen to be a 6* loft with a 48" shaft? Afterwards did he pick up his tee and ask you if it had landed yet? Details.

Under 10 here. My average carry is in the 270-280 range, however I get very minimal roll due to the high trajectory of my shots and the fairways I play on. If you would have asked me how far I was hitting the ball a year ago, I probably would have claimed something absurd like 320+ due to the fact that I was basing my numbers on the course yardage markers. Now that I have a more realistic view on distance, my numbers (and ego) have dropped a bit.

To answer your question, I would rather have an old Vokey than a "no name" wedge, however I wouldn't consider the Tom Watson wedges "no namers". They are very solid wedges. If I hadn't recieved my Vokey's as gifts, I would still be hitting them. :)

Sounds like my typical round. I usually begin my 18 at 5PM and I'm completely done by 7:15 or so. (walking)

That's what I was thinking.

He's not kidding folks. I went to a demo day two weeks ago and the newer TaylorMades were all atleast 2" longer than my r7 Superquad.