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What you have there on the list is the easiest to the toughest if you run them down from the top to bottom. Theoretically, MP-52 is the easiest due to its pocket cavity and cavity (they call them as pads) hence the dual-muscle marketing term. While the MP-57 is just full cavity back irons. MP-60 and 62 are half-cavity. The point is the more cavity they have, the easier they are to use. The MP-52, I believe, is more advanced than G5. In regard to long term use it's all depend on the golfer. Someone who is superior at ball striking may not like something bulky and not workable. It's such a great feeling when you're really able to control where the ball goes (from my personal experience). But this workable feature may backfire for beginner to average golfers. I believe we've had the experience where we just spray the ball everywhere (again from my personal experience). If you're still unsure about which irons you should get, I strongly recommend you to demo them all. Remember to pick the right shaft as well. The right combination of the club head and shaft with your play style will improve your game tremendously. I hope that helps.

I wouldn't call MP-67 not a pure blade. It's a blade but with Cut Muscle technology (as they say in marketing term). If you think that Cut Muscle provides forgiveness, well I urge you to think again (or just try it yourself). If in fact somehow it does, I'd say very little to none. If you're looking for better deal you can find MP-32's price should be more reasonable by the end of the year. In addition to what 907golfer12 said, Mizuno doesn't go all the way in paying each and every golfer on tour to use their clubs. Another example is Miura. That doesn't make Mizuno or Miura a lesser golf club manufacturer. In fact Mizuno and Miura irons are highly regarded as some of the best.

There are 4 new products from Mizuno, which are MP-52, MP-62, MX-100 & MX-200. If you're looking for one that plays somewhere along the lines of the G5, I think you should give the MX's a try. Umm...MP-62 perhaps? But don't take my word for it. Demo as many models as you can and find the "one".

I agree with both of you. I've hit my friend's MP-57 although it's easier than MP-60, but still you can't put a crappy swing into them.

Well if you go to Europe's Mizuno website, two MP lines that aren't there any longer are MP-32 and MP-60. So, I don't think 52 is a replacement for 57. Besides, 52 is pocket cavity and 57 is full cavity back, not exactly apple to apple.

I think AP2 is more comparable to MP-52, not MP-57. Definitely big difference between the 62 and 52. From what I've noticed, the specs of 62 is higher (closer) to 67 than 60. In other words, MP-62 is tougher to use than MP-60.

Mine is Pasatiempo Hole #12 . Very lushful and surrounded by a lot of trees, which reminds me all the time never to aim there.

Unfortunately, it'll be much more pricier than regular version only because it has that little circled T logo.

Albatross (double eagle) is when you score -3 on one hole. But lower than that (-4), I have never seen nor heard about it....until now. Perhaps someone needs to make a new thread titled, "Have you ever had a Condor?" I bet it won't be as many as hole in ones.

I thought Nike had a team (or at least someone in Nike) to do all Tiger's clubs? Hmm...

Unfortunately, yes. I meant "ltters."

Do you konw taht it's sitll unedrsatnadlbe as lnog you get the frsit and the lsat wdros rhgit? As for the grammars, I think it's okay as long we get what you mean. For instance, "Me speak no english."

30% off iron sets? New or pre-owned clubs? And 50% off apparel is nice. Not too bad.

Are you sure? If it's true, wow, I didn't know air pressure could change lofts.

You call my previous post a bashing? If that's a bashing, the word of "not too bright" is equally offensive as "idiot." My water analogy is laughable? That's uncalled for. Did I say anything wrong to you on my post or something? Wow! You just made this personal. "...the AP2 irons are forged out of 1025 mild carbon steel, just like the Mizuno line of forged clubs. In other words, the face of the club is just as soft as the face on the MP-52, MP-57, or MP-60." Just like Mizuno clubs? Now this is laughable. Clearly Titleist site provide how they made AP2, and yet you still insist it is the same with Mizuno? Here's what I meant by purely forged; forged from a single billet of carbon steel and no more additional material. Elastomer insert? Aluminum cavity plate? Laser welded tungsten nickel box? Do you find those materials in MP-52? Nope. Again, you said they're "just like Mizuno clubs" Laughable! "A lot of people had not seen the AP2 irons in person when they said they did not like the look. Most people changed their tune after seeing the irons and even more changed their minds after hitting the AP2 irons!" I have seen, held in person and hit AP2. My impression are bulky and clicky. Ball flight is nice and quite high with little fade. "I have owned and played AP2 irons for 25 or so rounds of golf now. I can tell you that the AP2 irons feel just as soft as the anything I have hit in the Mizuno line. If anything, they feel a little softer." This is the first time I've heard that comment. Clearly you can't feel what's soft and what's not. Honestly, I feel pity for you. I didn't expect anymore response from you as what we've talked about was quite off topic. This thread is meant to discuss the thread starter's AP2, not in general. Now, back to topic.

What is your swing speed? And how fast is your transition (tempo; scale it from 1 to lowest and 10 the fastest)?

I'd like to add that forged club heads are made from single billet of carbon steel and heated so it's soft enough then it's hammered approximately 5 times into shape. The excess steel then is removed from the edge. Afterwards if need to they'll grind down to spec. The iron coating is next. On the other hand, cast clubs are made from liquid steel poured into mold. Simple as that and cheaper in production too. Technically you'll find the grain structures in forged clubs are more compact and solid. While in cast clubs there are occasions pockets of air bubble are formed. To me, forged club is like handmade and cast club is like factory mass produced products. The debate forged vs cast is that they feel the same if they're made the same design. However, forged clubs are made from softer material in the first place. So, do they still feel the same? I too came from Callaway Fusion and boy the change in feel I experienced. My MP-60 is very soft when struck pure. And now, honestly I wouldn't want to use cast clubs anymore. No turning back.

I'd say you should go for it. BUT...make sure you have a plan B in case being a golf pro doesn't work out. That plan B is your education/degree.

Some people are naturally high hitter and some aren't. Without you providing a video of your swing we can't really tell if it's your swing.

I'll tell you straight away, IMHO, softer feel. I agree with you. However, coming from Callaway Fusion which packed with technology and multi-materials construction, and now Mizuno MP-60 I have to say that nothing beats the feel of purely forged clubs. I still remember the first time AP2 was going to introduced, the majority of the previews on another forum said that AP2 looked ugly and very un-Titleist. I'm pretty much sure Titleist is well known for their traditional clubs. Their introduction of such clubs might have 'intimidated' some people. I'm not saying that thinking out of the box is wrong, but I just did not expect it came from Titleist. On the other end, Mizuno is still cruising on the same highway even with the contender of AP2, MP-52. Simple and clean design compared to that AP2 seem to appeal people who prefer a more traditional irons look. To me Mizuno delivers that in an elegant way. And as far as moving to weight around to promote forgiveness in multi-material clubs, well I think Mizuno wants to keep the thought that water needs to taste just like water in contrast to flavored water with a hint of peach, for example. Forged clubs can only provide so much forgiveness (no moving the weight around) just take it as it is. If you need more forgiveness, Mizuno does have MX lines to provide that. Last for not least, I'm not trying to bash AP2 or whatever. In the feel department I have a hunch that MP-52 feels better than AP2 (clicky and not soft enough). And from the look alone, I'd choose MP-52 over AP2. This has been my .02 cents.

of a cabaret...

This is a very dangerous disease among golfers. Once you have it in you, one extra set of irons is just the beginning.

If you're into AP2 that much, I do really hope you'll try out Mizuno MP-52. Notice that pocket cavity in the back of AP2? They're milled out of one piece forged head in MP-52 instead of AP2's multi-material construction/weld. I'm sure you know what I mean. Here's a video and 3D view of MP-52 .

You know, the pro at my driving range once told me that it's best to get used to your current irons rather than getting new clubs once/twice in a month. He meant that using new clubs needs time of getting used to. Make them blend into you and your swing and build that confidence and he implied. At first new clubs may seem to be superior compared to your current irons, but over time you'll slowly discover that they're not meant for you (or perhaps they will). From my experience, there's this one time a close a friend of mine switched his irons every 3 weeks and I got to try them too. I still recall he got new Callaway X-Tour which he brought to the range with him that night. He hit them very nice and high. He flushed every shots and he told me it felt great to him. About one and a half week later he complained how dead it felt just like hitting rock. Moreover, he hit the ball fat more often than pure. He also mentioned that although quite small the club looks too bulky at address for his taste. "This needs to go" he said. That's just one story. He kept searching on clubs until he find one to his preference, MP-32 and stick to it until this day. To think of it, clubs come in different classes/levels. Although technology is constantly improving in drivers, I do honestly think there's no significant improvement in the irons (well except those super GI irons). So if you're in certain level on irons say cavity blade irons, other brands in the same level pretty much is the same. That is why you'll find the design of such irons is surprisingly quite similar in the same level between brands. Perhaps this is also why a pro can hit pretty much every irons well, but they have their own preferences of irons to use in tournaments. The one they put their faith into. If I had extra money I too would become a club ho. Have you seen the new TM Rac MB in smoke PVD finish? Perhaps Japanese TM TP Forged 2007? Or the new Mizuno MP-62 and MP-52? MP-67 is also fine looking. How about Miuras? Wow are they great or what? I'd hit it! Anyway, some club manufacturers make a lot of money from club hoes and that's why they constantly releasing new products every time with just minor to no improvement over the old/current products. This has been my .02 cents. Hope they help.

I read an article somewhere saying that they'll be priced the same with the current MSRP for MP lines. Is it $849 or $899?