Jaywun

From personal experience, I would say no. The MP33's are fine, assuming shafts and lie angle are right. If you are a 10, you should have a good idea of where your lost shots are coming from. Fairways, Greens, putting Etc.. I don't think you will see a significant difference in switching to Game Improvement irons. Plus, MP33's are sexy as hell!

I taught Brant everything!

I love when a plan comes together!

I can't find much wrong at all. I wish I had that swing

Brant17, I wish I could play a round with you. I've been stuck with my current scores forever. I have a mini goal to get under 9 by next summer. 11 to 3 in less than 1 yr. is awesome!

Thanks everybody. My shoulder turn is ok I guess. I dont get my hands very high. I think my numbers are good for a 10 hdcp. But all the 5 hdcp. I know are very long off the tee. The few holes that I described would play so different for me if I had 6 iron in instead of 3 or 4. I still haven't got any hybrids. Mostly because there are too many to choose from. I rarely get any birdies. seems like I never get more than 1 a round. My last 2 rounds I started 36 38 on the front(easier) Just to finish 81 82 total. I actually tied a very low hndcp on the front. But he ended up with 73 to my 81. He reached the green on my nemesis par 4's plus both par 5's. This back nine really has my number. There are some fairly easy holes, I guess I'm gonna have to birdie some of those. Gonna look at some hybrids and work hard on short game.

Hi Yeri, I have a slightly different approach than most. I like to start at impact and work back. Before anything else I would focus on having my hands ahead of clubhead at impact. This is imperative! Look at film of all the great champions past and present. The ONLY position that is always the same is shaft angle at impact. Now how to get there will vary greatly. Remember every teaching pro will give different drills and direction, but they will all be ultimately aiming at you arriving at proper impact position. In the end you will want to get there the simplest and most energy efficient way possible. Good luck!

Dan, what camera are you using? That is a great slo mo. On topic-I really like your swing, and I can tell you're working on hands ahead at impact, wich is crucial. But I really love the camera. I've got to get a good slo mo cam.

Holy cow, you shot 4 over and you started playing last year! I'm so jealous. Anyways, I believe you shot a legit +4. Only if you lift clean and place in the fairway. If you disturbed your ball in any way while off the fairway it wasn't legit. Anyways congrats. And I'd say your on your way to scratch.

Oh god, I just saw they come in black nickel! This is getting bad!

I can't stop thinking about those mp68 sticks my friend got. Oh boy, I feel some domestic violence coming.

Wasn't Jones the only one to win the slam?

Definitely over 130. But I introduced golf to a friend about 10 yrs. ago. After 3 driving range sessions, and long chipping putting sessions, 3 practice days total. He fired 97 on a fairly long Muni course. He lost interest in golf soon after. He never even bought a set of clubs. (borrowed mine) Ball striking came very very easy to him. So I definitely believe someone can shoot 88 on his first time out. Especially if he got alot of good instruction beforehand. I think my passion for the game is largely due to how bad I struggled my first year. It took me many many buckets before I even got the ball in the air with an iron. Needless to say when I finally did start hitting good shots I was so hooked.

I'm an older golfer. 11 handicap. I average 250 off the tee, 5 iron about 175. The thing is I have a short backswing(self taught). I have no crazy goals of getting to scratch but feel I still have a chance to get to 5. Question-should I still try to lengthen my backswing for more distance or stick with my length and work on short game to get down to 5? I layup on every par 5 and try to wedge in for birdie, but almost never 1 put, so settle for par at best. Most low single digits say birdie on par 5's are necessary. If I can maintain my distances and just work on consistency and short game, is getting to 5 realistic or do I have to get longer? Also, there are a couple long par 4's on my local courses that I just dread playing. I always have 3 or 4 iron in and always bogey or worse on those holes. Any thoughts? Anyone in the same position? All feedback appreciated.

+ index golfers that didn't actually get there until after married w/kids and working full time. Seems like a very rare accomplishment. But I'd like to know about those that have done it.