thanks for your input, Its nice to hear another teacher say that it does'nt matter, too many these days are too convinced in early setting i believe. The more i learn the more i am convinced everyones individuality requires a different take on the golf swing. Some get the early set n turn while others prefer turn n set. Of course as you can see from my profile image i am a Hogan fan, Mo norman of all people has a swing method i admire and both amonst many others in that era keep their wrists(actively) out of their full swings at points where these days the model advocated seems? increasingly to suggest to students that they should make sure they set their wrists early. Granted it won't be put that way but the students will pick the concept of the swing in that way

The subject fascinates me, i am once again thankful for your reply and invite any other thoughts on the subject. Regards Stephen