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Hey all, I just had a quick question about the lie angle of my clubs. I'm only 5'7" and was wondering if you all think that I should have the angle adjusted on my clubs. I'd rather not have the clubs shortened due to the loss of distance, but I always feel that I'm not hitting the ball as cleanly as I should. Any and all comments are much appreciated

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Only one way to find out.

Tape up your 7 iron and swing it on a pad and see how close to center the impact mark is. If it's consistantly off-center, then you probably need to look into getting fitted for lie angle. If it's centered, then you're probably fine.

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place masking tape on the sole of the club and swing at a ball on a hard surface such as a piece of plywood. The striations on the tape will tell you where the club is bottoming. If it is close to the heel then your tendency will be to strike the ball left of target line. likewise if it is toward the toe then you will hit your shots to the right.

lie angle is not only important with irons but also with the putter. I see a lot of golfers miss putt lines while putting with a putter with the toe being up.

Forged irons are easy for someone with a Scotland to adjust for you. Cast irons will possibly break when bent so these would be best sent back to the manufacturer. Ping is an example of a very friendly customer service organized company. The basically adjust for postage + a few dollars.

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lie angle is not only important with irons but also with the putter. I see a lot of golfers miss putt lines while putting with a putter with the toe being up.

If you adjust the lie on nothing else, fix your putter. You use it more than any other club in your bag, and it's the only club that you expect to hole out with on every hole. Then, if you can, get the wedges adjusted. The higher the loft on the club, the more an ill fitted lie will be exagerated. Ever try to hit a Sand Wedge off a side hill, ball above your feet lie? Better aim hard right.

I'm 5'9" and play a 37.75" 5 iron. If you think you need shorter shafts try choking down a little and hitting with some impact tape on your club face. Or if your range has striped balls, always make sure the red stripe is facing down the target line. At the end of a session, the paint marks will tell the story on club length. If you are hitting the center of the face, the length is right for you. Check Titleist's website for the way they do club length fittings. Great stuff on there. But dont have someone just cut off your clubs. Without re-swingweighting the clubs, you bring in a whole new host of problems.

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This is good advice.

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Vokey 56

Scotty Caneron Flange/ Ping Cushin

Srixon ZStar

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