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Buying New Irons - input on purchasing "Tour" Level Irons


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Hi Everyone,

I have been fervently reading these forums looking for input and advice about equipment, however I do not feel that my question has been directly addressed nor discussed in any other thread.

Four weeks ago was the first time that I picked up golf clubs for six years. I just started a new job and my colleagues invited me to play so I grabbed some really old clubs that I have (Ping EEE3ZZZ Irons, probably older than I am) and headed to the course. This re-sparked my interest in golf as I used to go the range quite frequently between the ages of 16-19.would

I am now looking to purchase a new set of irons and have been eyeing the Callaway x20's but am really leaning towards the TM R7's. For some reason I have an urge to buy the tour or players versions of these clubs and I was wondering what people's thoughts are on this. I shot about a 100 that day when I went to the course and I have been going to the range for about 8-9 hours a week since then.

From what I have read it sounds like GI clubs can possibly make one unmotivated to push themselves to improve. Also, I checked the "Maltby Playability Index" and it seems like the tour version of the TM R7's is not as "difficult" to play as some other player's irons out there.

Will I be wasting a bunch of money if I get the tour version of the TM R7's? Are tour irons impossible to implement to improve one's game?

Also, I have been looking around for demo days in the NYC area and have not been able to find ANY as it makes the most sense to hit with the clubs first right? Does anyone have any suggestions around this slight dilemma.

I do not wish to continue playing with the Ping EEE3ZZZ irons I have because they were hand me downs from my uncle who is significantly shorter than I am, and I can feel that the clubs are too short and the grips have been tearing my hands to shreds.. plus I am blessed enough to have the money to get a new set of irons.

Please help.

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A lot of people recommend that I stay away from the RAC 2005 TP Forged irons because of my higher handicap.

I purchased them anyawy and I have played 4 rounds with them. all 4 rounds have been in the low 90's. I like them better then my GI Rac OS2 Irons. My handicap has dropped a little, down to 22.8 from a 25 something. I love the look of the thin top line and minimum offset. The club lets me know if I hit off center but shots still go straight, just less distance. Off center shots do not sting my hands like I had read in other threads. On center shoots are buttery smooth and boost my confidence level. Bottom line... Hit some demo's and if they look and feel right go for it.
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Try Mizuno MP-57s. They are a forged cavity back that look very blade-like. I just switched from X-20s to the MP-57s last week, and like the Mizunos better. I hit both the X-20s and the MP-57s well, but the Mizunos feel better in my hands, and for some reason I'm more confident when I address the ball with them -- don't want to let the clubs down, I guess; they look too elegant to be hit by a bozo like me, so I have to step up my game.

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I saw on another thread that someone was able to demo clubs over at Golf Smith without a demo day so I think i'm going to head over there to try the Mizuno MP 57's and the TM R7 TP.

After I posted my original question, I realized what I was really trying to ask:

A club isn't going to cure your shot in an extremely noticeable way right? If you hit a slice, it's going to slice regardless of what you use correct? In other words, if you suck at golf, will there be a huge difference in how much you suck if you use a lower end "player's" iron like the mp 57's or TM r7 tp's or let's say the regular r7's?

reason why I ask is my because my clubs are probably 20 years old and i have never tried using any GI iron whatsoever.

Thanks for the input.
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I have to say that at a 25 handicap, you will be much better with GI irons. I learned how to play with blades. But for the last 3 years have been playing GIs. I have only gotten much better. In that time, my index has gone from a 7 to a 1 and I attribute a lot of that to the fact that I am playing with something more forgiving.

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I saw on another thread that someone was able to demo clubs over at Golf Smith without a demo day so I think i'm going to head over there to try the Mizuno MP 57's and the TM R7 TP.

I used GI clubs when I started and when I made a terrible swing, guess what, it ended up being a horrible shot. Personally, I think there is misconception about GI clubs. They are not a cure all and they are not going to make you a better golfer. What they do is minimize the penalty on a shot that is not struck on the center of the club face. Like you said, though, if you suck, no club is going to cure that. As for using better clubs, go for it. As long as you are committed, which seems that way, to improving your swing and mechanics, you should not have a problem with "better" clubs.

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