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Just looking for some friendly advice from the knowledgeable and experienced folks on this board.

I gave up golf for more than seven years after leaving high school and going to college. Money was tight during school, but more than that I was struggling having fun with the game. I had high expectations for myself, but never any formal instruction or means to see steady improvement other than simply playing.

Last year on my birthday I decided on a whim to play with a good friend and I have been addicted ever since, applying as much of my free time to the game as I can. After about eleven months of playing over two summers, my game has improved and become more consistent.

More to the point of the thread, I am looking to make a fresh start next season with a few lessons and a new (to me) set of irons. I currently play with a hand-me-down set of MacGregor MT Tourney mid-size cavity backs. Decent, but old. I have a pretty high ball flight with my irons, with a draw when it's nice. My three iron is still in the bag and I am comfortable with it as well as my four. When I'm not swinging too hard, I play my seven iron to around 160- 165.

My question is: Is a set of oversized, game improvement clubs going to allow me to get away with more bad habits with better results, to the detriment of my of my swing? Conversely, are smaller forged clubs, for instance, going to help my improve my game by requiring more consistent ball striking?

I'm definitely not foolish enough at this point to go to a muscle-back, and I may never be ready to. But something along the lines of the Hogan Apex Edge or the MacGregor 1025c have me intirgued.

Sorry for the book and I appreciate anyone who has come this far and would graciously offer advice.

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My question is: Is a set of oversized, game improvement clubs going to allow me to get away with more bad habits with better results, to the detriment of my of my swing? Conversely, are smaller forged clubs, for instance, going to help my improve my game by requiring more consistent ball striking?

24.4 handicap - I wasn't too much better than that when I got my Mizuno MP-57s.

Here's my view on the matter: If you're a reasonably consistent player - meaning both in able to hit shots and playing and practicing on a semi-regular basis - then you might be better off with Players' Irons if you want them . I know people with single digit handicaps playing with GI irons - as do a number of professionals. I have found a lot more consistency with my irons since switching from SGI irons to Players' Irons. I used to get very haphazard with my long iron shots, figuring the club would do the work. Now I have to concentrate when hitting, say, a 4-iron, and the shots come off better. Of course, now I worry that I pick at the ball, and that's something I have to get looked at. But in short, I'm a big fan of Players' Irons. They're more fun to hit and they have, I believe, helped my game.

-- Michael | My swing! 

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