Are these wedges legal? Or good?

[Jon K]

I have never seen a wedge with the type of face as shown in the picture below.

The wedge has standard U or Box grooves as any other wedge would have ...

however it Also has smaller cut grooves through the middle of the wedge.

Is this a legal wedge to use? Why don't you see this on more wedges? Is it bad? Good?

Thanks

[thr33]

It just looks like teh face is milled...I dont see how it's different from my vokey spin milled?

[Jon K]

Oh .. is that what spin milled means? I never knew that

[Hidalgo]

www.usga.org will get you all the info you need.

Quoted from The Rules of Golf:

Sandblasting or other treatments of roughness greater than 180 micro inches are not permitted. Additionally, milling is not permitted if the crest to trough depth exceeds 0.001 inches (0.025 mm). A reasonable tolerance is allowed for both of these measurements.

So...yes....those millings are legal PROVIDED they are not too deep.

[Jon K]

Thanks for the info.

[iacas]

Oh .. is that what spin milled means? I never knew that

No, that's not what spin milled means. Spin milled is how they cut the grooves.

It's confusing, because the face of a Spin Milled wedge is also milled, but that's not quite how they get their name. I've asked Titleist on several occasions and they've always given me the same answer: spin milling refers more to how the grooves themselves are cut. And back to the original question, your club is probably fine. Those added "cuts" are barely there.

[Jon K]

I'm assuming those small "cuts" are to help the ball spin more?

Do they effect accuracy any?

[RocketSauce]

just curious what kind of wedge that is in the photo you posted?

[Jon K]

They are Tommy Armour Forged R-91's

[Hidalgo]

I'm assuming those small "cuts" are to help the ball spin more?

Another one bites the dust...Another one bites the dust......

That's what they WANT you to think. Milling is done to make the face flat or uniform. What little it may or may not bring to the game otherwise is too little to have any effect.

[Jon K]

Ok ... so they don't do anything other than use it as a marketing catch?

Is there any disadvantages to having this mini grooves?