Draw driver lose distance compare to neutral driver?

[Salty Dog]

I have a 2007 TM Burner Draw and a Cobra 2008 Speed LD F driver. On the course, I seem to feel that the Burner Draw with the stock shaft is giving me higher launch, but shorter distance. The Cobra with the stock shaft seem to be getting extra 20-30 yards longer.

Is it true that Draw driver has shorter distance drive compare to a normal neutral driver?

The reason I ask is eventhough Cobra gives me better distance, I still like the feel and sound of Burner. I seem to have problem deciding on my clubs.

[Dominic]

Normally a draw goes farther than a straight shot but the reason you're hitting the Cobra better is probably because you just hit the club better, not because its neutral.

[Salty Dog]

Interesting is that when I use the draw driver, the ball flight is still straight, not draw. :) Does that explain why the distance is shorter?

My pro used my driver before, and it clearly shows a nice draw.

[deronsizemore]

All things equal, you shouldn't lose any distance because of the draw bias of a driver. It could be your swing, shaft, shaft length, etc. causing the distance differences. Unless the two clubs have identical specs, shafts, etc., it's hard to tell why you're losing distance with one over the other. If you hit the Cobra one lower, it's likely just rolling out further than your TM one. May be as simple as you're making better contact with the Cobra driver could explain it as well?

Just because the driver has a "draw" bias head, that doesn't nesessarily mean you should hit a draw with it. The head is there simply to promote a draw by helping the golfer close the clubface a little sooner so they don't hit a big slice.

[Salty Dog]

All things equal, you shouldn't lose any distance because of the draw bias of a driver. It could be your swing, shaft, shaft length, etc. causing the distance differences. Unless the two clubs have identical specs, shafts, etc., it's hard to tell why you're losing distance with one over the other. If you hit the Cobra one lower, it's likely just rolling out further than your TM one. May be as simple as you're making better contact with the Cobra driver could explain it as well?

Thanks. What you said makes perfect sense. May be the cobra is a little lower launch and cause the ball to roll further.

[rckwd]

I have a 2007 TM Burner Draw and a Cobra 2008 Speed LD F driver. On the course, I seem to feel that the Burner Draw with the stock shaft is giving me higher launch, but shorter distance. The Cobra with the stock shaft seem to be getting extra 20-30 yards longer.

IMHO....I would go with the one that you find in the fairways with the most

[pinhigh27]

Interesting is that when I use the draw driver, the ball flight is still straight, not draw. :) Does that explain why the distance is shorter?

Probably because you have a slight fade swing, so the draw bias straightens it out. The pro probably hits a straight ball or a slight draw and the draw weight accented it. Just because the club says draw doesn't mean the shot will.

[Greg]

The Cobra is probably a better driver. The TM drivers are way more popular and I think thats what sells drivers, but they're all tremendous works of art designed to pound a golf ball farther than ever before. Sounds like you get better results with the Cobra, thats what I'd base my decision on. Do they have the same loft, could explain why you hit the Cobra lower, maybe you need less loft as It sounds like you hit the ball plenty high.

[Salty Dog]

The Cobra is probably a better driver. The TM drivers are way more popular and I think thats what sells drivers, but they're all tremendous works of art designed to pound a golf ball farther than ever before. Sounds like you get better results with the Cobra, thats what I'd base my decision on. Do they have the same loft, could explain why you hit the Cobra lower, maybe you need less loft as It sounds like you hit the ball plenty high.

The cobra no doubt gives me better distance, but comparing sound and feel, the TM is still better. Both of them have the same loft. When I was using the TM, I was so confident and never had any slice. After switching to Cobra, I started to develop some bad slice (2 or 3 in 10) eventhough I get greater distance. I think main contributor could be due to my confidence level with the driver.

Should I just go with what gets me to the fairway most and forget about that extra distance?

[rckwd]

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Think about it...that extra distance is what, maybe a club difference? Then factor in being in the rough; you just lost that extra cub mabye +1, then you have to factor in how well you hit getting out of trouble. IMO, I would take the shorter straight shot every time.

[Salty Dog]

The different that I have tested was around 20-30 yards, which is quite substantial. I believe may not be due to the draw biase, but more because of the launch angle and the roll. Seems like the cobra promotes a lower flight and create more roll. May be i just need more practise and gain more confident with the cobra club.

[rckwd]

The different that I have tested was around 20-30 yards, which is quite substantial. I believe may not be due to the draw biase, but more because of the launch angle and the roll. Seems like the cobra promotes a lower flight and create more roll. May be i just need more practise and gain more confident with the cobra club.

Just remember distance is only good if it can be controlled. I know if I had two clubs; one that I could not trust to hit straight, I would leave it in the bag and gladly give up 20-30 yards.

For instance if you were hitting a 310 par 4 and with this slicer club you were hitting it into the rough @ 240-250yds, but hitting the other club @ 220-230yds. Either way you are hitting your wedge. Now would you want to hit your wedge out of the rough or off the fairway. That is just my opinion

[Salty Dog]

rckwd,

I realized that you are using TM Burner as well. How far do you hit with it? Have you tried other driver? With the Burner, does it promote a higher ball flight which could rob you distance?

[rckwd]

rckwd,

Hey Salt

I hit my Burner with a carry distance of 230 on average and if I really crank on it I get it to carry around 265-270; (but with that distance I cant promise you it is going straight down the fairway). Not including the custom drivers I have built, I have owned only had 6 name brand drivers in my life; Big Bertha, Yonex, TM Burner Bubble II, King Cobra TI Offset, TM R540, and my current TM Burner. Out of all the drivers I hit the Burner Bubble II the furtherest. Of course I was younger also. I was also a cronic slicer back then too; that was the reason I bought the Cobra; the big thing back then was that offset to hit it straighter. In the past few years I have tried my friends Titlest 905, TM R7 Draw and Cleveland Ti Offset trying to correct my slice problem. Not until I addressed the real problem with my slice, my swing, did I start getting consistent results. Of all the clubs my TM540 gave me the highest ball flight out of a stock shaft. Now that I have my slice cured and my swing/drives consistent I have since went to a new shaft in my Burner and now I am getting the best performance with the best ball flight of any club I have ever owned or ever used. Now I am not saying the TM is the better club. IMO, any driver these days performs just as well as the others. I just know the TM is what I feel comfortable with.

[Salty Dog]

Hey Salt

rckwd,

I agree with you. Somehow the burner just give me that confide that my cobra driver doesn't. Once i fix my slice problem, I may want to try out titleist 909. I just love the sounding of it. :)

[rckwd]

rckwd,

Oh and I forgot, I tried out my friends 09 Burner. It seemed not to have the draw bias that my 07 Burner has...but I still hit it straight as well.

[shankapotamus]

The cobra no doubt gives me better distance, but comparing sound and feel, the TM is still better. Both of them have the same loft. When I was using the TM, I was so confident and never had any slice. After switching to Cobra, I started to develop some bad slice (2 or 3 in 10) eventhough I get greater distance. I think main contributor could be due to my confidence level with the driver.

I say yes, but it's not for us to decide. Whichever one gives you more confidence.

[Cunny]

I have a sim 2 d 1 inch shorter driver fitted with a ultra light 45 gram stiff shaft  and I'm hitting this driver further straighter and more consistent than I ever have.. If you're getting high spin then correct the loft..