Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 5972 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
I am preparing for my high school golf tryouts and today I played the course and shot a 78 which I was happy with. The only thing worring me is playing from the greenside rough which is long and thick. I can get it out fine but I have no idea how the ball will come out of the rough so I have trouble getting it close.

Anyone have any tips for hitting from hitting from deep greenside rough?

Posted
I usually use my 52* wedge and put the ball back in my stance (my right toe). Depending how far the pin is, I do a short backswing and accelerate through the ball. Make sure you have a descending blow to pop the ball out of the thick stuff. Also, keep your weight on your leading leg to assure a downward strike. Distance wise, it's different in every situation but just keep on practicing and you'll eventually get it down.

- Tour Issue Taylormade R7 Superquad TP Matrix Ozik Xcon 5 X-stiff
- Nike Dymo 3 Wood UST Axivcore Stiff
- Nike Dymo 5 Wood UST Axivcore Stiff- Nike Blades 3-PW S300- Nike SV Tour 50* 54* 58* S400- Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport Beach- Nike Tour D


Posted
The key is to accelerate through the shot. As soon as you decel the club will get caught up and you will either chunk it or the club will flip and the ball will squirt out left.

Driver: Titleist 905R 9.5 UST V2
3-wood: Ping TiSi 15*
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler Pro 18*
Irons: Mizuno MP-30
Wedges: 52* Cleveland CG12, 58* Vokey Spin MilledPutter: Ping Lil' C belly putterBall: Pro V1xwww.crestwoodcc.org


Posted
What course is it? Maybe I've played it being from the area.

Driver: Titleist 905R 9.5 UST V2
3-wood: Ping TiSi 15*
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler Pro 18*
Irons: Mizuno MP-30
Wedges: 52* Cleveland CG12, 58* Vokey Spin MilledPutter: Ping Lil' C belly putterBall: Pro V1xwww.crestwoodcc.org


Posted
What course is it? Maybe I've played it being from the area.

The tryouts are at Nehoiden golf club its a private 9 hole course at Wellesley College.


Posted
I like to play my sand wedge, it is generally the heaviest of the wedges, so it plows throught the thick grass better. I will play the ball in the middle of my stance, hit down on the ball with a very decending blow. My goal is to hit as much ball as possible.

Craig 

Yeah, wanna make 14 dollars the hard way?


Posted
I usually open my clubface slightly and take a firm grip on the club then chunk it out. I guess almost like a bunker shot.

« Keith »


Posted
If its sitting down in it, I take my 60, and do a flop shot. If its sitting on top, I do not use flop, because you will never contact the ball. I use my 60, but its because what I'm comfortable. I also really tighten my grip, because I don't want the club head to turn on me.
Try this, act like a shaft is sticking in the ground behind you. Now, instead of swinging around, swing to the outside of the shaft. Purposefully, hit from out to in.
I also have my feet open as well, like a 45 degree to where I want to hit it.

Posted
I usually use my 52* wedge and put the ball back in my stance (my right toe). Depending how far the pin is, I do a short backswing and accelerate through the ball. Make sure you have a descending blow to pop the ball out of the thick stuff. Also, keep your weight on your leading leg to assure a downward strike. Distance wise, it's different in every situation but just keep on practicing and you'll eventually get it down.

I prefer this method. My swing is similar to a putting stroke, and by eliminating the use of my hands and small muscles, I can lessen the chance of striking the ball thin.

These shots are difficult, you really need to commit and have a good follow-through.
Driver: ZL 10.5⁰
Fairway: Burner 15⁰/19⁰
Irons: MP-67
Wedges: 1018 52⁰/56⁰/60⁰
Putter: Byron Morgan 007xBall: Pro V1x

Posted
It depends on how much green there is to work with. If there is 10 yards+ to work with I will play the ball back in my stance and hit a hard chip shot with a 56 or 52. I just make sure I swing down hard enough to get the ball out and up in the air and on the green. There will be little spin so the idea is to get it to land on the green and release to the hole. If there isn't much green I will use the 56 or 60 and play it like an explosion shot from the bunker. I open the face and swing hard down and through to get the ball up and hopefully it won't roll very far when it hits the green.

As usual, it really depends on the lie and a few other factors but this is what I usually do. The biggest thing for me is just to get it on the green. There is nothing worse than having a tough shot out of the rough and then having to do it all over again.

I will judge my rounds much more by the quality of my best shots than the acceptability of my worse ones.


Posted
Anyone have any tips for hitting from hitting from deep greenside rough?

Avoid what Harrington has done the last couple weeks, lol.

It's hard. Meant to be unpredictable and a penalty. Grip hard and swing to a safe spot. You're probably better off anywhere but there so don't be afraid to swing too hard, imo. I suck outta that stuff.

Note: This thread is 5972 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 1: 2025.12.26 Worked on LH position on grip, trying to keep fingers closer to perpendicular to the club. Feels awkward but change is meant to.
    • Please see this topic for updated information:
    • Please see this topic for updated information:
    • When you've been teaching golf as long as I have, you're going to find that you can teach some things better than you previously had, and you're probably going to find some things that you taught incorrectly. I don't see that as a bad thing — what would be worse is refusing to adapt and grow given new information. I've always said that my goal with my instruction isn't to be right, but it's to get things right. To that end, I'm about five years late in issuing a public proclamation on something… When I first got my GEARS system, I immediately looked at the golf swings of the dozens and dozens of Tour players for which I suddenly had full 3D data. I created a huge spreadsheet showing how their bodies moved, how the club moved, at various points in the swing. I mapped knee and elbow angles, hand speeds, shoulder turns and pelvis turns… etc. I re-considered what I thought I knew about the golf swing as performed by the best players. One of those things dated back to the earliest days: that you extend (I never taught "straighten" and would avoid using that word unless in the context of saying "don't fully straighten") the trail knee/leg in the backswing. I was mislead by 2D photos from less-than-ideal camera angles — the trail leg rotates a bit during the backswing, and so when observing trail knee flex should also use a camera that moves to stay perpendicular to the plane of the ankle/knee/hip joint. We have at least two topics here on this (here and here; both of which I'll be updating after publishing this) where @mvmac and I advise golfers to extend the trail knee. Learning that this was not right is one of the reasons I'm glad to have a 3D system, as most golfers generally preserve the trail knee flex throughout the backswing. Data Here's a video showing an iron and a driver of someone who has won the career slam: Here's what the graph of his right knee flex looks like. The solid lines I've positioned at the top of the backswing (GEARS aligns both swings at impact, the dashed line). Address is to the right, of course, and the graph shows knee flex from the two swings above. The data (17.56° and 23.20°) shows where this player is in both swings (orange being the yellow iron swing, pink the blue driver swing). You can see that this golfer extends his trail knee 2-3°… before bending it even more than that through the late backswing and early downswing. Months ago I created a quick Instagram video showing the trail knee flex in the backswing of several players (see the top for the larger number): Erik J. Barzeski (@iacas) • Instagram reel GEARS shares expert advice on golf swing technique, focusing on the critical backswing phase. Tour winners and major champions reveal the key to a precise and powerful swing, highlighting the importance of... Here are a few more graphs. Two LIV players and major champions: Two PGA Tour winners: Two women's #1 ranked players: Two more PGA Tour winners (one a major champ): Two former #1s, the left one being a woman, the right a man, with a driver: Two more PGA Tour players: You'll notice a trend: they almost all maintain roughly the same flex throughout their backswing and downswing. The Issues with Extending the Trail Knee You can play good golf extending (again, not "straightening") the trail knee. Some Tour players do. But, as with many things, if 95 out of 100 Tour players do it, you're most likely better off doing similarly to what they do. So, what are the issues with extending the trail knee in the backswing? To list a few: Pelvic Depth and Rotation Quality Suffers When the trail knee extends, the trail leg often acts like an axle on the backswing, with the pelvis rotating around the leg and the trail hip joint. This prevents the trail side from gaining depth, as is needed to keep the pelvis center from thrusting toward the ball. Most of the "early extension" (thrust) that I see occurs during the backswing. Encourages Early Extension (Thrust) Patterns When you've thrust and turned around the trail hip joint in the backswing, you often thrust a bit more in the downswing as the direction your pelvis is oriented is forward and "out" (to the right for a righty). Your trail leg can abduct to push you forward, but "forward" when your pelvis is turned like that is in the "thrust" direction. Additionally, the trail knee "breaking" again at the start of the downswing often jumps the trail hip out toward the ball a bit too much or too quickly. While the trail hip does move in that direction, if it's too fast or too much, it can prevent the lead side hip from getting "back" at the right rate, or at a rate commensurate with the trail hip to keep the pelvis center from thrusting. Disrupts the Pressure Shift/Transition When the trail leg extends too much, it often can't "push" forward normally. The forward push begins much earlier than forward motion begins — pushing forward begins as early as about P1.5 to P2 in the swings of most good golfers. It can push forward by abducting, again, but that's a weaker movement that shoves the pelvis forward (toward the target) and turns it more than it generally should (see the next point). Limits Internal Rotation of the Trail Hip Internal rotation of the trail hip is a sort of "limiter" on the backswing. I have seen many golfers on GEARS whose trail knee extends, whose pelvis shifts forward (toward the target), and who turn over 50°, 60°, and rarely but not never, over 70° in the backswing. If you turn 60° in the backswing, it's going to be almost impossible to get "open enough" in the downswing to arrive at a good impact position. Swaying/Lateral Motion Occasionally a golfer who extends the trail knee too much will shift back too far, but more often the issue is that the golfer will shift forward too early in the backswing (sometimes even immediately to begin the backswing), leaving them "stuck forward" to begin the downswing. They'll push forward, stop, and have to restart around P4, disrupting the smooth sequence often seen in the game's best players. Other Bits… Reduces ground reaction force potential, compromises spine inclination and posture, makes transition sequencing harder, increases stress on the trail knee and lower back… In short… It's not athletic. We don't do many athletic things with "straight" or very extended legs (unless it's the end of the action, like a jump or a big push off like a step in a running motion).
    • Day 135 12-25 Wide backswing to wide downswing drill. Recorder and used mirror. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.