Clubs with BIAS, or MWT etc.

[binga7]

It seems to me that people that play with fade BIAS are considered better than someone who uses draw BIAS. From my observation this could be a fair analysis as a lot of pros seem to have clubs adjusted to slightly open.

Just wondering why draw BIAS is frowned upon? Eg- people saying you shouldnt buy a draw bias driver, well whats different from someone getting a fade bias driver?

[andef]

A draw bias club is used by those who can't square the clubface at impact, most likely a slicer. Most people suggest to avoid buying them because as your swing will improve, the clubface will be square to the target more often and a draw club will not help hit straight shots.
On the other hand, fade clubs are easier to control for those who have no problems squaring the clubface at impact. Their "miss" is most likely a hook and the open clubface improves the chances of that not happening.

[binga7]

So wouldnt that mean that if their miss was the hook, that they are over squaring, or closing the face too much. Either way the clubface is not square right? I just find it odd that it seems cool to have your clubs slightly open, but as soon as you mention draw club, its not acceptable.

[delav]

So wouldnt that mean that if their miss was the hook, that they are over squaring, or closing the face too much. Either way the clubface is not square right? I just find it odd that it seems cool to have your clubs slightly open, but as soon as you mention draw club, its not acceptable.

Go back and take a close look at what andef is explaining. Typically, players who approach the ball from the inside do not need a draw-bias club. Similarly, players who cut across the ball do not need a fade-bias club.

The difference in that better players who do approach the ball from the inside tend to have more control over the angle of the face impact... they can hit a push fade, a straight push, a push draw and worst, a hook. Having an open (fade bias) club helps minimize the chances of a hook miss when things are not timed properly at impact. The over the top (across) slicer? Draw bias clubs are a band-aid here, and help minimize the effect of the typical swingpath and face angle relationships that produce larger slices. That is why there is typically an association between a draw bias and fade bias club. Better players don't need help with swing path issues.

[binga7]

That is why there is typically an association between a draw bias and fade bias club.

Thats the answer i wanted. Thanks

[delav]

Thats the answer i wanted. Thanks

I should clarify. Players who approach the ball from the inside can have swingpath issues too.

[zeg]

Also, independent from what good players do swing path-wise, poor players almost universally (not quite, but almost) have out-to-in swings. As a result, it's not necessarily that it's "better" to have a fade-biased club than a draw-biased, merely that poor players are much more likely to look for a draw-biased club as a band-aid. This gives the association between draw bias and poor players.