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looking for a compound velvet style grip, or a compound wrap. I like the feel of TV's but they are a bit firm to me. I also like these black widow tour silk but they arent in midsize, and feel somwhat "sandy" and dry.(but they are much softer than the TV's and feel good)

anybody have any ideas? ive considered tackis, premios, but will ABSOLUTELY NOT do Iomics. if i have to pay 18 bucks a set they better be indestructible and get me my pga tour card. (or at least make the nationwide tour)

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Golf Pride Players Softie  - a Full Cord wrap style that will change your life (for the better).

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multi compounds are good but kinda pricey or u could try some cord grips

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Golf Pride Players Softie  - a Full Cord wrap style that will change your life (for the better).



I bought a old set of 70s Wilson "Staff" blades to in some ways manage the wear of my new FGs. They had mostly the "grip rite, swing rite" grip on them except for the 9 which had a GP tour wrap that was slippery as ever. The pitching wedge though, had a golf pride "players sofftie". it had the same cord your referring to. There's a reason I don't like it though......

I CANT FIND IT ANYWHERE! haha it seemed as if the day i decided to look for it, the entire worldwide web decided to "hide" it from me. irritating.



Originally Posted by kas910

multi compounds are good but kinda pricey or u could try some cord grips

I recently bought a Tour Edge CB3 Tour Driver to replace my R9 460. Nice club all around fuji motore mid kick shaft and even a Golf Pride MCP's Exotics grip. It was used and yet the grip is in relatively good condition. The cord is a bit rough but sometimes I'm just swinging too hard which usually tightens my grip. Might consider getting them for my fairway woods/utility clubs. What is your opinion on them in terms of wear? i know they are pricey which is why i might stick to just the fairway/utility clubs. I keep reading that the bottom half gets slick/hard/worn easy? Your opinion?

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Originally Posted by kas910

multi compounds are good but kinda pricey or u could try some cord grips



oh also, im not sure if because the CB3 was a "tour" inspired driver, that they naturally put a midsize grip on it. I know most pros use midsize. but the grip doesn't refer to any size differences and the seller (eBay) did not either. Do you play standard? and if so, are they slightly larger in grip size?

My only alternative thought is that the grip was to be made a midsize as a "standard" by Exotics for the CB3. like as an "off the shelf" or from the factory type standard. If you chose to keep the regular grip of course.

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I think the Softie's were discontinued a couple of years ago but there's still some old stock floating around.  Golfworks has the non-cord Softie on sale right now, (buy 6 get 6 free).  They also have the same deal on the Mamiya compound half cord.  I've never used the Mamiya so I can't tell you how firm they are.

I'm using the Lamkin Performance Plus 3g, it's like a slightly softer tackier version of the Golf Pride Tour Velvet.  It's also a straighter taper, (fatter on the bottom than many other grips).  But they don't make it in a cord version.


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Im not sure about the midsize thing i just play standard grips ive tried midsize and more wraps of tape i didnt like it. If u slice bigger grips will make it worse

because u cant release the club as much but if u hook they can help a little. Any grip is going to wear out no matter what but the mc grips should last a while just depends how much u play. If u play alot and want fresh grips all the time tour velvets are the way to go because there cheap.

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i play relatively alot, but, not so much lately due to this shotty pennsylvania weather. i ended up buying tacki mac it2s for about 50 bucks. fantastic grip. so nice when i went to get the PW at the big local sports store in town the head guru loved them. noticed the relation to the iomics at a fraction of the cost. so he ordered a load of them for the golf shop as well as a few extra for himself.

So when i took just my pitching wedge to him he decided to add an extra wrap on top of the existing tape. sealed it and lined her up and sent me off.

took it too the range at a local 9 holes course i play on. they have a nice course on top of a range and i was a regular that wasnt apart of the small living community that is throughout the course so i just took about 12 balls from the sandtrap and took my time. the first thing i noticed was the comfort. it couldve been the difference from the IT2's to my old lamkin crosslines. lamkins were much harder and played more like a rubber cord. the IT2's also are claimed to have "negative ions", or as tacki mac describes as, "Minus Ions". This helps reduce stress which directly relates to the grip. seemed to work. but who knows. but the size helped me worry less about my grip and more about my ball position and hand position (club lag). i was swinging easy and occasionally stopping the cruddy range balls on the green that was roughly "100" yards out. (seemed a little less). i occasionally crushed one a little too far. i got comfortable enough to even try a knockdown and leave it short and roll it at the pin. i was hitting well and compressing the ball exactly how ive been trying to. i couldnt help but buy a bucket and keep going. it felt really good to have control and know where the ball is going.

i started to try draws (difficult but do-able) as well as fades and even one time i aimed at the right half of the green and tried a draw, i could feel it turn in my hands but it wasnt doing much turning in the air. i did that classic "lean with it" and thought "maybe the spin will bounce it left? it felt good". and as soon as the ball hit the green it kicked left immediately and rolled left and just behind the pin. my control was much better.

the grip tends to "shrink" a bit and almost compact without losing grip so it felt ever soo slightly small. idk if this is just my mind playing tricks on me. but some windex brings the grip back to life for your next round. even though i was hitting right on line mostly every time, i decided to add a second wrap onto the  existing tape for the remainder of my set. i was reluctant to replace the golf pride exotics multicompound grip on my CB3 driver but after hitting the wedge it was soo rough on the hands and was much smaller as well. havent had the time to try every one but i only needed one to know that the size felt good and that im no longer pulling shots straight, and to the left. the release feels very good.

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Originally Posted by kas910

Im not sure about the midsize thing i just play standard grips ive tried midsize and more wraps of tape i didnt like it. If u slice bigger grips will make it worse

because u cant release the club as much but if u hook they can help a little. Any grip is going to wear out no matter what but the mc grips should last a while just depends how much u play. If u play alot and want fresh grips all the time tour velvets are the way to go because there cheap.



im sure by playing standard in comparison to you trying midsize with more wrap, it wouldnt work out too well. that seems like a pretty large gap. if you do have "larger" hands than standard with extra wrap might help. i was pulling shots straight left sometimes 15 or 20 yards off my target line. sad part, i crushed those shots so it put me in even more trouble on my second.

im sure that different midsize grips play different all around. round, ribbed, taper amount or whatever all affects the sizing.

i do know i'll be sticking with the IT2's for a while. they feel a bit softer than a golf pride but oddly just as firm on feedback. it was a strange feeling when hitting the first club i regripped with it. but i definitely would recommend it to anyone looking for new grips.

if there is anybody who does grip replacements out there, whether it be your own or for others in a shop, i do suggest the grip process be done with a bit of care with these grips. they are a strange material and unlike rubber grips can be turned a little off center in the middle while adjusting. for instance i think one or 2 of my grips were in line but the texture design in the middle was a little off. not a design flaw by any means, but i think it may have happened while the grips were being adjusted. a little twist at the bottom or top and the middle didnt move with it i assume.

overall, amazing grips.

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Posted

sounds good maybe ill try one on my sand wedge or somthing

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Posted

The midsize grip must be standard for Tour Edge. I just bought a new XCG-4 3 wood and it came stock with a midsize grip.

Originally Posted by handlez42

oh also, im not sure if because the CB3 was a "tour" inspired driver, that they naturally put a midsize grip on it. I know most pros use midsize. but the grip doesn't refer to any size differences and the seller (eBay) did not either. Do you play standard? and if so, are they slightly larger in grip size?

My only alternative thought is that the grip was to be made a midsize as a "standard" by Exotics for the CB3. like as an "off the shelf" or from the factory type standard. If you chose to keep the regular grip of course.




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This gets repeated on the internet a great deal and I thought id throw another thought out there.  I used to fight a slice with all my clubs and I read in somebody's book that going to a midsize or other larger grip can help you reduce a slice.  So I tried it, I went to a midsize and my slice disappeared overnight.  The larger grip gave me more control because it fits my hand better and allows me to release the club properly. So like many things in golf what works for some may not work for all.

Originally Posted by kas910

Im not sure about the midsize thing i just play standard grips ive tried midsize and more wraps of tape i didnt like it. If u slice bigger grips will make it worse

because u cant release the club as much but if u hook they can help a little....




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Originally Posted by cruzthepug

The midsize grip must be standard for Tour Edge. I just bought a new XCG-4 3 wood and it came stock with a midsize grip.



im glad someone else has noticed. it plays smaller than the grip i have on it now though. i figured because these drivers are tour like drivers that they put slightly larger grips on them for tour players. ive heard most tour players actually play midsize. and most even prefer it to avoid the menacing hook. i loved it other than the fact that the cord tore up my hands

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Adams Tight Lies II 19*, KBS Tour Graphite Prototype 85g Stiff

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Wilson Staff FG Tour (2009) PW-5i, DG S300 +1"/2*Up, 6.0 Freq

Mizuno S23, 52* and 56*, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115g

Callaway Mac Daddy PM Grind 60*, KBS Tour-V

TaylorMade Ardmore 3 TP Patina (left-handed)

 


Posted

i dont think a midsize grip is a cure for a slice lmao

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Titleist 910D2 10.5* UST V2 76g s flex, Titleist 906f4 15.5* UST V2 90g s flex, Titleist 909H 19* voodoo s flex, Titleist 710 CB 3-PW, Vokey TVD 54*, Vokey 60.04 spin milled, Cleveland classic 2 35'', PROV1.


Posted

Precisely, and it doesn't cause one either.

Originally Posted by kas910

i dont think a midsize grip is a cure for a slice lmao




Posted

If you tend to hit shots to the right a bigger grip will make it worse 9 times out of 10

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If you tend to hit shots to the right a bigger grip will make it worse 9 times out of 10

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I have small hands, oversize Lamkin Crossline grips (because of arthritis in my hands), and have a lot of trouble hitting a fade.  Something changed in my swing during my time away from the game, because I used to not be able to hit a draw. As much as I need a few lessons to figure it out they're just not in my budget right now.


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