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Almost all manufacturers’ stock shafts have limited variability in length and shaft flex/frequency.  A driver that may be listed by the manufacturer as 45.5” may in fact be 45.25” or somewhere slightly in between.  I was formerly on Ping’s staff program and received two Ping i15 hybrids with stock TFC stiff flex shafts.  Inconsistencies in performance prompted me to check the shaft frequencies of each.  The frequencies of each shaft tested as a regular flex (soft reg. at that).  However, I did not have similar issues with the stock driver or 3-wood shafts.  Each tested well within the range for a stiff flex shaft.

Your best bet will most often be going through custom to request that your shafts be frequency matched or to go with a custom/exotic shaft if you still have lingering concerns with the quality of the stock shaft.  This will add significant wait time before you’re able to hit the links with your new club, but may be worth it.

Alternatively, as you know some facilities and stores are better equipped than others.  You can ask the Pro at your local store or Pro Shop if they have a shaft frequency measuring device.  If buying off the shelf ask them to test a couple of the same club to see which one best matches your needs.  The variability may surprise you.


  • 1 year later...

I bought the i20 9.5 w/707D S flex because I was totally discussed with the wimpy X-stiff "Blue Board" by Titleist in my 909 D3 (which BTW I love).  The Ping i20 looks great at address, only outdone by its' performance.  Particulars: SS 106-110 (little wind in my face), spin typically 2200 to 2500, launch 8 to 10* which is fine for me (this is with the i20)!  I have a slow take away but can get hurried in transition, thus causing all kinds of issues, duh!  My ball can get stupid when the spin goes to 3500 like with my old Titleist 909 shaft and others like it.  Back to the Ping, I have read the above articles and come to one conclusion, lessons vs disc a club and shaft! The i20 is IMO as good as it gets...  I saw no improvements at the Ping fit center with the i25.  My club set up is neutral or square so the i20 has no drawbacks for me, then comes the retrofit of the 707D S to current stock shaft offerings in the i25.  Well the 707D S was better feeling, very stable at impact and shot producing, than the current i25 offerings in my hands!

OK, the Titleist, reloaded it with the Rombax 6V05 tour X-stiff, now it is fixed, end of discussion, game on!  Unbelievable feel, only issue, shaft cost as much as club, just like the Graphite Design AD DI 6S.  Yes, you can fix any good head, but for an honest stock offering, the i20 is quite the little sleeper!  The 707 D stiff is not as smooth as the Rombax 6V05 or the AD DI, but "not" bad at all and my performance is at its' peak with this club in its' stock 707 D setup; buy this thing, learn to hit it, "all shine on!"

Now all I need to do is find a course that has an architect that put the greens where my excellent shots land!


  • 1 month later...

The common thread over the years of buying clubs seems to be "Buy the Demo" because the new one never lives up to the Demo. Could it be that Club makers are Tuning/Puring the Demo shafts or even worse putting a high grade shaft in the same livery as the standard shaft!

I have the G25 3 wood with TFC 189Fstiff, I can smash it, stroke it. Swing it smooth, and chip it.  Just the best club I have ever purchased.  So I tried the G25 Driver TFC 189D, I cannot get it to work for me at all.  So now I am checking out the I20 707D.

Later


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