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Interesting im surprised that my Adams clubs are that much weaker than most other irons especially in scoring irons.  That being said it is one of the smarter marketing schemes.  The average golfer isn't gonna look into the specs and lofts for each club and compare them to other brands.  They hit the new "6 iron" on the range notice it goes 15 yards further and love it, heck they think wow if these irons can do this to my iron play imagine what a new RBZ driver will do.

Driver: RBZ 9.5° Stiff

Woods: :nike:VR_S Tour 2.0 15° Stiff

Hybrids:  910H 21° Stiff

Irons: 4-GW Pro Black CB1 with Project X rifle 6.0

Wedges:CC Jaws 56°.14° 60°.08°

Putter: Classic 1

Ball:  Z-Star XV Pure White


Originally Posted by mosnas

Interesting im surprised that my Adams clubs are that much weaker than most other irons especially in scoring irons.  That being said it is one of the smarter marketing schemes.  The average golfer isn't gonna look into the specs and lofts for each club and compare them to other brands.  They hit the new "6 iron" on the range notice it goes 15 yards further and love it, heck they think wow if these irons can do this to my iron play imagine what a new RBZ driver will do.

Exactly. It seems a lot of the clubs with less loft are in the game improvement irons which can get the ball up high anyway so they can kind of get away with it.

 913 D2 8.5* with V2 66g stiff shaft

 910F 14.25 with Diamana stiff shaft

 i20 17, 20, and 23 hybrid 

 AP2 712 5-PW with Dynamic Gold S300 shaft

 54 and 60

 D66

 Tournament Edition 1600

 

 


Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

This is pretty much why I rarely buy new irons.  To me irons are irons.  It's all about how much forgiveness you need, or how much offset you like, or what you like looking at, etc.  Irons are not clubs that should be designed for maximum distance and it really shouldn't be much of a consideration when choosing an iron set.

Exactly.  That's why my "new" irons are almost 6 years old!

My lofts are:

3 - 22*

4 - 25*

5 - 28*

6 - 32*

7 - 36*

8 - 40*

9 - 44*

PW - 48*

With my driver set to 9.5*, 3w set to 14*, 5w at 18*, and 52* and 56* wedges, I think my set is well balanced.  They are pretty much all evenly gapped with the largest gap being 4.5* between the driver and 3w.  Such a huge difference from the RBZ irons listed earlier.


Its not ALL marketing and selling more clubs.  With the changes in club technology you need less loft or else you will be getting this huge, ballooning shots.

Im pretty sure that if Ben Hogan were in his prime today, he'd have a hybrid in his bag.  Tradition for the sake of tradition is foolish and narrow-minded.

Whats in my :sunmountain: C-130 cart bag?

Woods: :mizuno: JPX 850 9.5*, :mizuno: JPX 850 15*, :mizuno: JPX-850 19*, :mizuno: JPX Fli-Hi #4, :mizuno: JPX 800 Pro 5-PW, :mizuno: MP T-4 50-06, 54-09 58-10, :cleveland: Smart Square Blade and :bridgestone: B330-S


I played golf from 1981 to 1998 when I had to quit for medical reasons. Didn't think I would ever golf again so I completely cut myself off from golf. Started golfing again last year which I'm limited in what I can do, but the 13 years I didn't play or follow golf felt more like being transported 100 years into the future with all the changes to the equipment. The 460cc drivers, changes in lofts to irons, the designs in the cavity backs of irons, hybrids, laser range finders, GPS and whatever else. Last year I used my old set of clubs, the Tommy Armour Silver Scots, circa 1991. I bought new clubs this year, a mixed set of Titleist CB 712 and MB 712. My 20 year old son started golfing with me last year so I gave him the Silver Scots, which I think are still excellent clubs. I checked the lofts between the two sets and they are nearly identical, which surprised me. I agree with another poster on here who said they should just start stamping the loft on the irons. I think it's ridiculous with how much the lofts have changed with some manufacturers. Taylormade makes excellent clubs but they seem to be at the forefront of changing the lofts, which I think is pretty cheesy. Anyhow, here's the lofts: Tommy Armour Silver Scots (1991): 3i-21° , 4i-24° , 5i-28° , 6i-32° , 7i-36° , 8i-40° , 9i-44° , PW-48° Titleist CB & MB 712: 3i-21° , 4i-24° , 5i-27° , 6i-31° , 7i-35° , 8i-39° , 9i-43° , PW-47°

This is why when someone asks me........I mean when my partner asks me what club I used, I always answer with the yardage I played, not the club.  Lofts are all over the place.

Regards,

John

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It's the straightness of my driver, long and middle irons that affect my score. Distance control is way down on the list. Then the game changes with the short stuff and wedges, Distance is everything and left right issues are less pronounced and almost irrelevant. With that said I don't need a bunch of wedge options at my skill level. The close range bump and run is best for me. I think most of the marketing hype is just that, hype. But they got my money with the lighter faster driver and woods, when I know the distance is irrelevant with my swing speed. It seems that we golfers know one thing and choose to do another. There are more options for golfers today than could possibly have been conceived in the old days before modern marketing. These are the good times.


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