My Swing (ayouden)

[ayouden]

I've been Playing Golf for: 5 years

My current handicap index or average score is: 18

My typical ball flight is: Slight right to left.

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: H ook left or slight slice right (Starts right and slices away)

I have been trying to get my hips to start my downswing, but it seems to make me hit a hook or a big slice. Any tips on how I can get used to my hips starting my down swing? Thanks. Alex (16)

Any other observations of my swing will be greatly appreciated!

[nevrino]

A frontview would be nice, I only see obvious flaws but can't see any in your swing .

[ayouden]

I got a front view one, but it's 480FPS instead of 240. And it is a few days older than the one above. I'll upload it now :)

[ayouden]

[ayouden]

This is an updated video of my swing, this was taken today and I seem to have a nice high draw ball-flight. The only bad shot is where i catch the ball Fat or Thin. SO really the problem is being consistent on striking the ball. Also a very rare low hook occurs...

[GaryH]

You are making the same disasterous takeaway that 9 out of 10 amateur golfers make (empirical evidence from tens of thousands of lessons given at Knightsbridge Golf School in London).  I was doing the same myself and am fixing it.  You roll/twist the wrists / rotate the left forearm which drastically flattens the shaft plane.

Compare your flat shaft at 10.5 to 11 secs on your first video with the position Luke Donald has his shaft in at the same stage in his takeaway / backswing.  Drastic difference!  Find a pro who won't do anything else with you until you've mastered this takeaway, which is typical of most tour pros:

[ayouden]

Thanks Gary, I will try and get the Pro at my golf club to help me with this fix in some lessons...

[Beachcomber]

Looks to me like you have too much weight on your right side at impact.  And thus - flipping at the golf ball.  Throwing away a lot of power.

Get more secondary axis tilt (head behind the ball) - and slide the hips toward the target as shown in the Hogan model mock-up by world renowned instructor Lynn Blake.

Also, your left wrist condition at impact should be straight.  And your right wrist and forearm should still have flex in it.  You need to maintain the flying wedge - through impact.  In a condition where both forearms are straight.

Watch this video which talks about maintaining the wedge through impact - which should help with the left and right arms - and wrist through impact.

[ayouden]

Thanks Beachcomber, what you have said makes sense to me and I feel i can work on this when i go to the driving range. I will give this a go and i will upload a video of the new swing in a few days!

Thanks, Alex

[Beachcomber]

Originally Posted by ayouden

Thanks Beachcomber, what you have said makes sense to me and I feel i can work on this when i go to the driving range. I will give this a go and i will upload a video of the new swing in a few days!

Thanks, Alex

Just remember... Keep your head still as you work on those items.

[ayouden]

Would you start with working on the flying wedges first? because I think altering 2 things at once may make it worse? Or should I start with the increase of secondary tilt?

Thanks, Alex

[Beachcomber]

I worked on arms first - getting the shaft on plane.  Then moved to body/pivot - as that will add power once the club is on plane.  So start with the flying wedges first IMO.  Which will ensure you have a flat left wrist condition at impact.  That is the #1 imperative of the swing... A flat left wrist condition.

[ayouden]

I went into the Garden this morning and did a few swings, There is more space there than the driving range so i managed to get some front on videos so you can see my wrists.

Here is the video and from what I can see it looks better and it felt much more powerful!!!

ALL THESE SWINGS ARE DIFFERENT AND NOT THE SAME ONE REPEATED!

[ayouden]

Went to the Driving Range this afternoon and these are the swings...

[Beachcomber]

Originally Posted by ayouden

I went into the Garden this morning and did a few swings, There is more space there than the driving range so i managed to get some front on videos so you can see my wrists.

Here is the video and from what I can see it looks better and it felt much more powerful!!!

ALL THESE SWINGS ARE DIFFERENT AND NOT THE SAME ONE REPEATED!

I'd keep just making swings in the garden - until you start nailing some of this.  The flying wedge looks better into 'impact' or A7, but here is what I saw after which needs to be cleaned up...

You are doing a better job of maintaining the wedge - but you look like you're 'quitting' after impact.

(1.) You do pretty solid job of getting your left arm in a position such that it returns your hands on your right thigh - while maintaining lag (nice job in frame 1).

2.) I think you could have a little more secondary axis tilt - meaning your head should be slightly behind the ball - reference the models head position versus yours (fix this at address).

- I know you are making swings in the grass - but you can see in the model swing - his head is behind the ball by several inches.

(3.) You can see in frame 3 and 4 - the model has straight arms - your right arm starts bending at the elbow in frame 3 and 4 - which causes the left wrist to break.  This is referred to as 'quitting' or not finishing the golf swing. Try and keep those arms straight through post impact - all the way to frame 4.

- You can practice this by simply making swings from 9'oclock to 3'oclock with your driver in the garden. Just get your body/hands into position like in your frame 1.  Then swing and try and replicate frames 2 to 4 in the model.  The model maintains the flying wedge very well.  You can do these practice swings in your garden which will save you from having to go to the range.

(4.) I highlight this in red because this is very important... Do not let your eyes and head follow the clubhead - and ball through impact.  You can see your head is rotating - and looking down range at your target in frame 2, 3 and 4.  By comparison, the models head is steady - behind the initial ball location - and he is not looking down range at all.  His head and eyes are directed at the initial ball location even post impact.  The model doesn't look up until well after the ball is gone - and his club and hands are beyond parallel to the ground in the follow through.

Keeping your head from looking up should be very easy to fix.  So fix this first.  But keep working on the flying wedge piece (both arms straight as in frame 4 of the model).

Side note, I see some 'humping the goat' in the down the line video.... But clean up some of the items above, and then repost a video and I'll come back to the other pieces.

[Beachcomber]

ayouden, here is a video on a drill you could try in your back yard.  It will eliminate the breakdown or quitting issue that I'm describing.

[ayouden]

Here is my attempt at a fix for the breakdown, sadly I couldn't find a rock to hand so I combined to irons together for the practise. This is the result...

[Beachcomber]

Something is wrong with the video linked above?  Maybe it is still processing?