Why aren't there any women playing on the men's tour?

[Robster 7]

Don't feed the trolls.

I'm not a troll mate. It's a genuine question

[460CompMark]

my apologies.  i will make sure i use google before i doubt someone again.

[TJBam]

Originally Posted by 460CompMark

look at the big brain on yall.  good job with the google search.  you are smart.  im going by what length of courses i play.  6600 seems long for women.  guess i was wrong though.  do i care? NO

I understood what you meant.  The second furthest tees at my home course play to 6600, and that is pretty long for a casual golfer.

[geauxforbroke]

Originally Posted by Pappy091

I believe that a top women golfer could play and compete in the PGA. Would they be competing with Tiger and Phil on Sundays to win a major? No, but they could be just as good as one of the mid-low level anonymous players that makes a few cuts every year and basically just make a living.

Several have tried. None have ever made a cut.

Edit: I should say, none have made the cut since Zaharias in the 40's. But I think the sheer number of quality golfers now compared to 70 years ago makes that a fluke.

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by 460CompMark

my apologies.  i will make sure i use google before i doubt someone again.

As long as you're willing to admit that. Don't do it again...

[460CompMark]

im used to playing the tips at 7k+.  6600 just seemed high for the ladies.  but again, my apologies.

[Robster 7]

I accept the strength issue to a point but still don't see why a woman who can average 270 can't play with the men. Look, I'm 5ft7 and 147lbs and play a course which is 7100yds and I'm off 3. So how do you reconcile that? I don't even have a great short game, it's good but it's not what gets me round. My asset is that I'm not wild off the tee and rarely get in trouble. I average 260yds with a driver. Surely there has to be a woman who could play a schedule on tour that they could compete on? Fred Funk did it for quite a few years. Maybe the real reason is that they actually don't want to be the only woman amongst 150 blokes every week? It may be a lonely existence.

[Pappy091]

Originally Posted by geauxforbroke

Several have tried. None have ever made a cut.

Edit: I should say, none have made the cut since Zaharias in the 40's. But I think the sheer number of quality golfers now compared to 70 years ago makes that a fluke.

I know. But to my knowledge it's only been tried once or twice. I am just saying that there are a lot of men out there who make a living playing golf and every tournament they join they are likely to not make the cut. I believe that it is possible for a top female golfer to do the same. They are never going to be a favorite to win or even do very well, but they could play PGA tour level golf.

[geauxforbroke]

Originally Posted by Robster 7

I accept the strength issue to a point but still don't see why a woman who can average 270 can't play with the men. Look, I'm 5ft7 and 147lbs and play a course which is 7100yds and I'm off 3.

The top women on the LPGA tour would eat your lunch, not to mention the PGA guys. There's a lot more to it than just total driver distance. Read the thread where we talk about carry distance, spin, etc.

[Dave2512]

A few months ago we got paired up with a young lady that plays on the CUBuffs team. She played from the same tees we did 6448 70.6/134 and she shot a 78. It was her, her BF, me and my step-dad. She was the long drive on more than one hole. I think I shot an 87 that day and it was like we weren't even playing the same game.

[Pappy091]

Originally Posted by Robster 7

I accept the strength issue to a point but still don't see why a woman who can average 270 can't play with the men. Look, I'm 5ft7 and 147lbs and play a course which is 7100yds and I'm off 3. So how do you reconcile that? I don't even have a great short game, it's good but it's not what gets me round. My asset is that I'm not wild off the tee and rarely get in trouble. I average 260yds with a driver. Surely there has to be a woman who could play a schedule on tour that they could compete on? Fred Funk did it for quite a few years. Maybe the real reason is that they actually don't want to be the only woman amongst 150 blokes every week? It may be a lonely existence.

That and the fact that they could play the women's and make more money and have a shot at winning. Plus they wouldn't be viewed as a side show act and have an immense amount of pressure on them because they are a women playing with men.

[TJBam]

Originally Posted by Robster 7

I accept the strength issue to a point but still don't see why a woman who can average 270 can't play with the men. Look, I'm 5ft7 and 147lbs and play a course which is 7100yds and I'm off 3. So how do you reconcile that? I don't even have a great short game, it's good but it's not what gets me round. My asset is that I'm not wild off the tee and rarely get in trouble. I average 260yds with a driver. Surely there has to be a woman who could play a schedule on tour that they could compete on? Fred Funk did it for quite a few years. Maybe the real reason is that they actually don't want to be the only woman amongst 150 blokes every week? It may be a lonely existence.

I told myself I wouldn't touch this one because I'm sure to get burned by a Googler who posts stats to rebuke me.  So I'm going on personal experience.

Anyway- remember you still have a considerably greater amount of muscle mass than a 150lb woman.  They have more fat on their thighs, butt, and chest, etc. (This is a good thing for us).  (And I'm sure someone will post a picture of a jacked female golfer to deny my claim).  Plus they carry a considerable amount of water between their fat and skin.  Again, sexy for us, not so sexy for their distance, endurance, etc.

A 150 woman who is in good shape may have 15-20% body fat whereas a slender guy like yourself has much less fat, maybe 10%.  Plus women carry much more water in their system which adds to their weight but not to their muscle mass.  You can't judge strength by weight alone.  If a woman's body fat falls below 12% her hormones get screwed up.  Hormones, another reason they aren't as good over four days...

Anyways I am not a nutritionist or anything but I have been around a weight room or two and I would expect that an athletic girl the same weight as an athletic guy has less than half of his strength.

OF course, this is not to say that I could even come close to beating a LPGA or even good female college player playing from the same tees.

*Flame suit engaged*

[Robster 7]

Yeah I get that, but what about a woman who is 6ft and 180?

[Dave2512]

It's more than just the distance. The PGA course set up is more difficult. IMO the greens would pose the biggest challenge for them.

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by Robster 7

Yeah I get that, but what about a woman who is 6ft and 180?

I can hit it further than her at 5'9, 160. A 6 ft 180 lb woman isn't gonna generate the same clubhead speed as a PGA guy.

[Robster 7]

The top women on the LPGA tour would eat your lunch, not to mention the PGA guys. There's a lot more to it than just total driver distance. Read the thread where we talk about carry distance, spin, etc.

The crap women on the LPGA would eat me for lunch

[iacas]

Originally Posted by geauxforbroke

Several have tried. None have ever made a cut.

This includes Suzy Whaley in 2003 or so.

Edit: http://www.suzywhaleygolf.com/AboutSuzy/Biography.aspx

[geauxforbroke]

Originally Posted by Robster 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by geauxforbroke

The top women on the LPGA tour would eat your lunch, not to mention the PGA guys. There's a lot more to it than just total driver distance. Read the thread where we talk about carry distance, spin, etc.

The crap women on the LPGA would eat me for lunch

Tyler Martin