frustrated with my custom fit clubs

[Golf89]

First time post. Looking for help! I have been playing golf since I was approximately 10 & am now 41. I am currently a 13.3 index. I play 2-3x a week. My lowest hdcpt was a 9 about 10 years ago. I am so frustrated with my game I decided this year I would buy new irons after having my old set 8 years. Went to Golf Etc. & was fit. Picked out Mizuno JPX 825 Pros in the 4-7; MP59 in the 8-GW & reshafted my driver, 3 wood & hybrid. Played all year with ZERO improvement. Golf Etc. guy is seeing me Friday in an attempt to determine what is wrong (Indian or arrow). Anyone else get cusom fit & feel you play worse? I wonder if fitting was not done properly? Guess I was expecting to see some improvement. My goal was to get down to a 10 by now. GIR & fairways are worse this year than last. Thank you for any help figuring out how to get back to having fun playing & shooting 77-83 consistently.

[Spitfisher]

Buy some sort of yardage device - garmin watch for example, You are lacking in scoring situations, your distances are off.  since you didn't say anything about putting &  your drive was all over the place.  The assumption I can make is you are not hitting greens in regulation period. There are some greens that pins should be avoided and yet other greens where you can go for the pin.  They'll be some pins that a shot behind the hole is a better and safer putt. Focus on the green and not just between you and the hole.

Look at the greens prior to your approach shot and ask yourself 2 questions. Where do I want to putt from? and Where do I want to miss? Next play a round at your course and swing a touch easier with the next club up. If you "think" you are dialed in with a 7 iron for 150 yards, then begin swinging a 6 iron and choke down a 1/4-1/2 inch. 11-15 handicappers  have one thing in common they come up short on their approach shots. Choking a club, not enough and swinging too hard likely is the culprit. Use the extra club on all Par threes!

Goal: get the ball on the green and 2 putt, more pars, less bogies = lower handicap

[Golf89]

Thank you for some things to think about. Fairways hit average is 24%. GIR 17% & putts 30.9. Drive in trouble & then can not recover, but even if I hit the fairway finding the GIR is a struggle. Too many doubles. I use a GPS yardage app on my phone.

[mvmac]

First time post. Looking for help!

I have been playing golf since I was approximately 10 & am now 41. I am currently a 13.3 index. I play 2-3x a week. My lowest hdcpt was a 9 about 10 years ago. I am so frustrated with my game I decided this year I would buy new irons after having my old set 8 years. Went to Golf Etc. & was fit. Picked out Mizuno JPX 825 Pros in the 4-7; MP59 in the 8-GW & reshafted my driver, 3 wood & hybrid. Played all year with ZERO improvement. Golf Etc. guy is seeing me Friday in an attempt to determine what is wrong (Indian or arrow). Anyone else get cusom fit & feel you play worse? I wonder if fitting was not done properly? Guess I was expecting to see some improvement. My goal was to get down to a 10 by now. GIR & fairways are worse this year than last.

Do you hit the ball in the center of the face more often, the same or less often?  Assuming your swing has basically stayed the same.

If you got statically fit, which is a compilation of physical measurements like height, wrist to floor, hand size and longest finger, got your lie angles checked and measured your swing speed, then there isn't that much more a fitter could do.  I would also recommend checking your lie angles with a sharpie line on the ball

http://thesandtrap.com/t/58023/custom-lie-for-irons#post_711765

[Jodastra]

Hey, I keep all my scorecards from practice rounds and other. Before I got fitted I was in the 85-95 range using off-the-shelf irons.One day I went and got fitted.  I played fitted clubs 2 sets for 2 years (80 rounds) and never shot below 90. Picked up some old clubs(irons) from my Ex that were off-the-shelf. ..shot an 88, Bought a closeout set from Amazon and shot an 84... And have been doing better since then. But..I am still using fitted drivers, wedges and putters...My approach shots were my weak link, and I have fixed that.

[MS256]

There are different things called "a fitting". Some fitters are more skilled than others and some put much more time and effort into it than others.

None have a magic club that is going to fix a major swing flaw or flaws. If there were I would be looking for them.

They can only give us the tools to have our best shot at any success.

[Golf89]

Yeah, about ready to re-grip some old Titleist DCI offset irons that have been sitting around in my basement over 12 years & playing with them to see what happens. Scored quite a few times in the 70's with those clubs.

[Spitfisher]

There are different things called "a fitting". Some fitters are more skilled than others and some put much more time and effort into it than others.

None have a magic club that is going to fix a major swing flaw or flaws. If there were I would be looking for them.

They can only give us the tools to have our best shot at any success.

as a fitter you are correct, but one commonality of a properly fitted club is a repetitive swing- or at least a close resemblance of one. The fact that the original poster had a handicap of a 9 is a pretty good indicator of a repetitive swing, since he didn't indicate he was 6'3" or 5 3" for that matter, lie angle off a lie board, flex, shaft material for irons can be handled by most fitters. I can look at your swing plane, geometry, grip and ball flight and conclude similar results. Nothing will be perfect for the 10-16 handicapper, but for that matter nothing can be so terrible off the rack either.  The MP59 in the scoring irons and the JPX in the longer irons could be a little over thinking for a mid handicapper. My experience has been with mixed sets in nature seem to be common on much more lower single handicap players.- but not all.  Perhaps a full  consistent set of the JPX, rocket blades, type irons may have helped matters.  the jpx has a lighter shaft than the scoring irons, I believe they maybe a touch longer and stronger loft. I could be wrong though

[Golf89]

as a fitter you are correct, but one commonality of a properly fitted club is a repetitive swing- or at least a close resemblance of one. The fact that the original poster had a handicap of a 9 is a pretty good indicator of a repetitive swing, since he didn't indicate he was 6'3" or 5 3" for that matter, lie angle off a lie board, flex, shaft material for irons can be handled by most fitters. I can look at your swing plane, geometry, grip and ball flight and conclude similar results. Nothing will be perfect for the 10-16 handicapper, but for that matter nothing can be so terrible off the rack either. The MP59 in the scoring irons and the JPX in the longer irons could be a little over thinking for a mid handicapper. My experience has been with mixed sets in nature seem to be common on much more lower single handicap players.- but not all. Perhaps a full consistent set of the JPX, rocket blades, type irons may have helped matters. the jpx has a lighter shaft than the scoring irons, I believe they maybe a touch longer and stronger loft. I could be wrong though I believe I have a repetitive swing, but not perfect, otherwise I would not be a 15 :) I am 5'8" & 165 lbs. I purchased irons in Dynamic Gold XPR 300 standard length. Lie angle 59 & 2 degrees flat. Optimizer summary: head speed:76; tempo:4; tow down:3; kick angle:8; release factor:8. My interpretation of purchasing irons after/during a fitting was pick a club I like & what feels good & results will be mostly based on shaft I put on that head & the results from computer data. Appreciate all responses on trying to figure out how to score better & be more consistent.