Shaft advice please!!!!

[Hardballs]

I recently bought my first hybrid, a cleveland classic h3, (20.5*) regular shaft, and I like it so much, particularly the shaft I think, that now I want the h1! (15.5) However I cannot locate the 1h in regular any where!.. Only in stiff! With the shaft details below, can anyone tell me if I'm going to feel a big difference! Or lose much distance by going stiff?

[joekelly]

I'm no shaft guru but with the graphites , being more likely nearly equal weighted, there is less difference between stiff and regular than compared to steel..  I have mostly graphite regulars but one stiff and hit them all well.

[trickyputt]

I recently bought my first hybrid, a cleveland classic h3, (20.5*) regular shaft, and I like it so much, particularly the shaft I think, that now I want the h1! (15.5) However I cannot locate the 1h in regular any where!.. Only in stiff! With the shaft details below, can anyone tell me if I'm going to feel a big difference! Or lose much distance by going stiff?

The downhill lie will kill your shot with a 15 degree anything. Try the 2h to keep a long shot, downhill lie club in your bag.

[Hardballs]

I'm no shaft guru but with the graphites , being more likely nearly equal weighted, there is less difference between stiff and regular than compared to steel..  I have mostly graphite regulars but one stiff and hit them all well.

This is exactly what I want to hear! [quote name="trickyputt" url="/t/75498/shaft-advice-please#post_1012807"] The downhill lie will kill your shot with a 15 degree anything. Try the 2h to keep a long shot, downhill lie club in your bag.[/quote] Yeah I hear ya! But I won't have room for three hybrids and I need a long knocker so I can dump my woods, I'll use my 3h in that instance, although I have to say, the flight of these shafts are fantastic and the heads are kind of onset! No offset at all! They really do launch the ball up and out!

[WUTiger]

2H is hard enough to hit. Also, most 2H come in Pro or Tour head only (less offset) with Stiff shaft. You probably will have to factory-order a 2H to get a Regular shaft in it.

Test-hit the 2H in stiff to see if it comes close to working for you.

[trickyputt]

Good point by WUtiger, also add some 2h like TM stage 2 are longer by an inch or so than traditional models. And since they are adjustable these days, there is another wrinkle. I play my 18 down to 17 because I strike better with shorter and flatter lie clubs. My 16 adjusted up to 17 isnt as consistent for me.

[Hardballs]

2H is hard enough to hit. Also, most 2H come in Pro or Tour head only (less offset) with Stiff shaft. You probably will have to factory-order a 2H to get a Regular shaft in it. hit the 2H in stiff to see if it comes close to working for you.

Unfortunately I don't have chance to test hit, this range of hybrid go up in 2.5* increments, and 1/2" lengths, I was kinda thinking there wouldn't be much difference between a 3h reg & a 2h stiff, I'm also kinda hoping that this 1h will be my 200yrd club and be much easier than a 3fw off the deck! There's only one way too find out!

[WUTiger]

You might also try a 4W . At 16* or 17* loft, it tends to launch better than a 3W for many average golfers. Also, the 4W likely would have a longer shaft than a 2H, getting you more distance.

You're on the right track. Test them out, and see what works best for you. Let us know what you decide.

(I know one low HDCP players that just smokes his hybrids, but can't hit an FW to save his life.)

[trickyputt]

You might also try a [COLOR=800000] 4W [/COLOR]. At 16* or 17* loft, it tends to launch better than a 3W for many average golfers. Also, the 4W likely would have a longer shaft than a 2H, getting you more distance. You're on the right track. Test them out, and see what works best for you. Let us know what you decide. (I know one low HDCP players that just smokes his hybrids, but can't hit an FW to save his life.)

That is where I am going. A 44" 3hl 17 TM stage 2 when I put a V2 shaft in it so I dont hook hell out of it.

[LuciusWooding]

The 1h is a tremendous club from the tee for me and can make do as a fairway wood. However, I agree that a 17˚ wood is a better idea; I doubt you'll hit the 15 that much farther than the 20. I'd expect the 17 degree hybrid would do just as well, I hit that loft just about as long as the 15 off the deck for carry. I'm using a 15 and 19 degree right now; but I also am a pretty long hitter so I generate enough height with those kind of clubs. For most golfers, I wouldn't consider anything under 18 degrees in loft or so to be necessary except possibly for tee shots.

If you have the budget, I'd try to contact a matrix representative to supply and replace the shaft. If you just like the shaft in general then you could certainly find something similar for a lot cheaper than matrix's stuff. Something like the Aldila VS proto or Kuro Kage in a similar weight should be similar in terms of profile as far as I can tell and they cost a lot less, 40$ or so.

[Hardballs]

You might also try a [COLOR=800000] 4W [/COLOR]. At 16* or 17* loft, it tends to launch better than a 3W for many average golfers. Also, the 4W likely would have a longer shaft than a 2H, getting you more distance. You're on the right track. Test them out, and see what works best for you. Let us know what you decide. (I know one low HDCP players that just smokes his hybrids, but can't hit an FW to save his life.)

Well this is the thing, I've given up on woods off the deck, they're just too temperamental for me and were costing me shots! So then I got this hybrid and BAM!!! I'm smoking every hit! I can't miss, they're launching like I've never seen! And I'm thinking this 1h will be my 3w, I don't mind losing a bit of distance in place of a consistent hit! [quote name="LuciusWooding" url="/t/75498/shaft-advice-please#post_1013580"]The 1h is a tremendous club from the tee for me and can make do as a fairway wood. However, I agree that a 17˚ wood is a better idea; I doubt you'll hit the 15 that much farther than the 20. I'd expect the 17 degree hybrid would do just as well, I hit that loft just about as long as the 15 off the deck for carry. I'm using a 15 and 19 degree right now; but I also am a pretty long hitter so I generate enough height with those kind of clubs. For most golfers, I wouldn't consider anything under 18 degrees in loft or so to be necessary except possibly for tee shots. If you have the budget, I'd try to contact a matrix representative to supply and replace the shaft. If you just like the shaft in general then you could certainly find something similar for a lot cheaper than matrix's stuff. Something like the Aldila VS proto or Kuro Kage in a similar weight should be similar in terms of profile as far as I can tell and they cost a lot less, 40$ or so. [/quote] I hear ya, but these shafts are stock and come as standard with club, they're last yrs club too so they're like half price now! Also, I think 2.5 increments in loft per club is low, which is why I have gone for 3 & 1, Maybe I should have gone for 2 & 4? But I bought the 3h to be the club after my 4i, however, it turned out to be the exact same loft as my 4 iron, which is now in the garage! Seriously! This hybrid has instantly reduced my scores! Easiest club in the bag! I'm a convert! And so I wanted to try the longest one