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I got a tune-able driver with draw characteristics and I worked very hard on swinging in to out and getting my weight going forward. It literally happened over night for me one day. I can hardly explain it, and because it happened so fast, I can play both a draw and fade from the tee box with relative success. As of now, my draw max's out at 260-270 and my fade can go a good 230-240 without too much headwind. More than anything, I'm playing from the fairways now. The right fairways, I might add. Even if my scores haven't sunk dramatically yet , the game is far more enjoyable, at least. Adjust your grip, set up, and swing path - and things should get moving straighter or left for you. Start slow, too. Go to the range and hit slow speed duck hooks if you have to. Anything to get that motion in your brain and muscles.

Her style was disgusting. I didn't despise her as much in the 3rd show, but I still wasn't upset to see her leave. Too bad we lost two of the hottest ones in the first two shows. That one hippie sounding chick looked flat out bangin in the pool tho.

I hear you. I was thinking more along the lines of more executive courses. They seem to be far more accessible to the newbie than a standard par-72 course. You gotta figure, the average beginner is just trying to get the ball in play and on the green. As long as every hole isn't a straighaway shot, that's really all they're looking for. Maybe throw in a few challenge holes here and there, but keep it basic and cheap. I've been playing steadily for just about a year, and while my skills have advanced a lot (from nothing) I still enjoy playing a small executive course with friends. Anything to help a beginners confidence and feel for the game is what's going to up participation, in my eyes. This is hard to do under any circumstance, when it gets made to look so easy on t.v.

Love it haha

So, armed with this new knowledge that fades and draws can, in fact, be equal, is it still true that players should seek to hit a draw? Does the phrase "better players play a draw" still ring true?

I stand corrected. It's not quite as lulz worthy tho, because the guy is serious, and just a dick. You know what is funny? Two dweebs came to the driving range yesterday with the sole purpose of destroying a bucket of balls (or just the top of the balls ;) ) and the one kid, talking about all the cool golf equipment he had seen recently and the great prices they were being offered at, kept starting his sentences with "The other day I was looking at Dick's..." then he would go on to share some good price he saw for a fairway "wood" or something along those lines. The phrase was repeated a number of times, and it provided me with a good chuckle.

I wish there was somewhere we could banish this entire thread topic. Some deep, far region of the internet.

One course in town offers a college membership. It's not too spendy, but summer term doesn't count lol. Still outside of my college budget, unfortunately. Lump sums are hard to muster up.

I have successfully gotten two of my friends into golf in the past few months. For me, it's just about making it as fun and casual as possible at first, then adding the rest of the pieces as they get more hooked. Play the smaller, easier courses (less intimidating, less tiresome, smaller scores, less worry about pace of play, less expensive etc.) let them hit a few balls if need be and make sure they revel heavily in good shots when they do happen. We all know from experience that it usually only takes one pured shot, holed chip, or long putt per round to keep you coming back. My good friend has successfully holed out two chips in his two rounds of golf. Does this relate to the O.P.'s question? Sorta, not really. These are just my thoughts on how I got two friends into the sport, the sport I already loved. Not every person is going to have someone coaching them thru this process along the way, getting them hooked on the game. As stated above, golf is really really really hard, I've almost given up a number of times, and I'm sure the thought will enter my brain in the future as well. I think there needs to be two types of golf courses. Championship courses and non-championship courses (all of which need to be relatively priced). I know that when I was first learning I didn't want to play a par 72 course that measured 6500-7000 yards, I wanted to play the course with wider fairways (preferably to the right) and shorter holes. That sounds like a helluva lot more fun than trying to emulate what I see on T.V. on some monster of a course with 430 yd par 4's. To summarize my random thoughts: I think golf will improve if the standard is dropped a little. Not every course, not every bag of clubs, not every player needs to represent the PGA Tour. Make things more accessible and more fun. The tee it forward program is the right idea, but bad execution in my opinion.

I do too. It always looks like it was a pure shank. When I first started watching golf, I thought every player was as bad as I was. Even when they play fades, it's very deceiving. I think it has 95% to do with the camera angle, and 5% to do with whether it was a draw or fade. Even wedges appear to start 45* to the right.

I suppose I may be being a bit hard on her, considering it's all for T.V. I still hate that cocky, arrogant attitude. It's golf, which I know can get very competitive, but it's not MMA fighting, and every time she talks, she sounds like a contestant on The Ultimate Fighter. Not attractive and not fun to watch. And her short shorts are ridiculous and not flattering. If GC is going to have, as many have mentioned already, a bunch of girls with looks and not a lot of game, this is the type of critique that viewers are going to have after watching the shows.

Also, when I first started playing I was a horrendous ball striker, and the only excitement I ever got were long putts. For some reason I had this nice touch and I would cash a few from 20+. That's the stroke that gets the ball in the cup, after all!

Pured irons for sure, especially the longer ones. A higher 'capper like myself gets used to a bit of a brutal feeling at impact (less so lately, thank God) and to hit one crisp and barely feel it gives me aspirations of the PGA Tour. Flop shots and good drives really give me a tickle too.

Her inner ugliness is only out done by what's on the outside.... if you ask me.

My first love was motocross. I raced for about 4 years. MX and golf are actually similar in a lot of ways: you against the track and the other competitors, varying courses and conditions that dictate how you play/ride, misunderstood by those who don't do it, and both cost an arm and a leg. I love them both, but golf really helps me not to miss my racing days.

[INDENT][/INDENT][quote name="Yukari" url="/t/58199/how-normal-is-it-to-play-golf-by-yourself/18#post_714468"]His shadow. But the golf course wins the remaining 10%. :-P [/quote] Haha!

I win 69% of my matches when I play as a single, too.

There's a lesson guy at the range I go to. The first time he talked to me we were the only two on the range, so I took his advice and a few compliments. A little ego boost never hurt, even if his advice seemed sort of "off." Then I started seeing him more, and he was always giving unsolicited advice to people. He rocks a pony tail and a fanny pack with a walkman, and I started to get real legitimate vibes that he was some type of pervert pedophile or something. And, like your lesson guy, he can't go to the range without having a few beers. Also, I've never seen him hit a club longer than an 8i at most. He'll hit balls for a few hours, but he'll just wedge to the shorter flags the whole time. Not sure if he's a good golfer or not, just funny that he never works on anything other than the few close wedge or short iron flags. Anyway, the moral of the story is, I don't like the guy at all.

If I had a group I consistently played with, I would definitely come up with one of these. Probably a fake wrestling belt or something. Great idea!

Haha gotcha, we were on the same chapter, just different pages.

My story is solely in response to the topic of hitting into others that has been discussed already. I was in a 4-man best ball tournament in November, and we were on the green on a par-5, and all of the sudden a ball lands a few yards short and right of the green. Never really endangered anyone, but it was a sort of WTF moment. We turn around and see the group behind is only about 140 yds out??!! What made this worse, is one of the players in the group was one of the pro-shop attendants at the very course we were playing on. (He's a complete dweeb, but still, you'd expect him to know better than to hit into a group on the green from so close). One of the guys in our group was in the Army and did a few tours in Iraq, so he's a fairly standard macho guy, and he was livid. He was pretty ready to go over and give the four of them a few lessons in close-quarters-combat. I can't remember what we did after that, but it sure was a weird moment. It's not like we were playing overly slow by any means, our pace was fine for a 4-man tournament. Completely uncalled for, and still has me scratching my head.

I mistaked Duffner's quitness for a sense of arrogance at first. Like he was "too cool" to show emotion. Now, after learning a bit more about him, he's just a quite freakin dude. Definitely not the most exciting, but his waggle (and swing) sure are rhythmic and pretty to watch.

I mean... doesn't sound that bad.

Very well said.

Sit! Sit! ****....