BruceMGF

Mostly thinking about grandstands around greens.

But was it ever considered a problem before the "stadium golf" era? Major events were held there, and I presume spectators showed up.

Where he's from , he ought to be interested in this sort of football: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football Oh, wait, he says he feels more British than Irish. (And perhaps American as well?)

Thinking back to this thread: http://thesandtrap.com/t/67798/merion-the-yale-bowl-and-butler-fieldhouse Was the spectator problem, at least in part, due to forcing upon Merion a "stadium golf" setup it wasn't designed to handle, or was it too crowded in any case?

Not sure I understand about the players themselves deciding when to quit due to darkness. There must be some sort of trigger. Otherwise a player with, say, a medical problem could decide at 3PM on a sunny afternoon to say "it's too dark", go in for medical treatment and come back tomorrow. Now suppose Phil had decided on the 18th tee or even on the fairway that it was too dark to play. Could Ricky have finished on his own? Would Phil's decision be binding on Rory and Wiesberger behind him? How does this all work?

Had this ended in a tie, I get the feeling Rory would have insisted on going ahead with the playoff tonight.

People are born in the eras they're born in. It has nothing to do with "fortunate". It makes more sense to say Tiger Woods is fortunate to be born post-PGA-Caucasian-Clause. Actually, if you want to place pro athletes in general in different eras, all the past ones are unfortunate because the money is so much bigger now. Hogan's career earnings were something like $332,000.

Which has nothing to do with his skill. Nobody could touch Bobby Fischer at chess in his prime, and he was a complete *******. Compared to Fischer, Hogan was Mr. Friendly. A great many things were different. That doesn't mean they were disorganized or unevolved. At least they didn't let TV run the whole thing. Tiger Woods just lets the TV people do that for him.

I don't think she ever had this as a "previous form". This is better. She may look like a contortionist doing it, but she's actually learned to putt well.

Any consideration given to Gary Player's shot in the 1972 PGA, described here (number 4)?: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/234199-top-five-greatest-shots-in-pga-championship-history

Yes, the sister-kissing line implies ties are a mixed bag. Of course they are. Losses are not. They're just bad. But it's not enough to quote slogans. Interesting you'd mention football. I'm thinking in particular of college football. Remember what it was like before overtime (1996, I think)? Remember what "having stones enough to go for the win" meant? Yes, the two-point conversion to win or lose. Those games didn't end in ties, but the addition of overtime has made them a distant memory. Now everyone kicks the one-point conversion and heads for overtime. I always thought that was the most exciting moment in CFB. My watching of that sport was cut ten-fold when overtime came in. It wasn't just the do-or-die conversions but the other late-game decisions that hinged on whether to settle for a tie or go for the win: when in the red zone and three points down, do you throw to the end zone or run the ball in front of the goal posts? In a tie game, do you risk a turnover near your own goal line trying to get into scoring position or run out the clock and take the tie? Those decisions are no more. Now it's play safe and hope to win in overtime, if there's any risk at all.

Maybe this deserves a thread of its own, but ... Why? Not just the PC and Foursum Golf, but why the general antipathy to any sporting event ending in a tie? It seems to be a disease of the times. In the history of sport, most sports have accepted ties at some point. They may be common (soccer) or rare (dead heats in horse racing) but they've always been there. That is, until the last generation or so, when tie-breaking has become a mania such that the playing of a sport itself has been abandoned to shootouts, sudden-deaths, one-on-one confrontations for what's supposed to be a team sport.

He's got a bit over 3 years to do it. Last chance for a comeback. Can he be a superstar on the old guys' tour?

And all public courses will go broke.

I don't have it at hand, but in his autobiographical "Education of a Golfer" I remember him taking his shoes off for several holes during a tournament and getting chewed out by a tournament official for it. It was considered undignified or something like that. Not sure if he was quoted a specific rule.

Somehow I keep thinking of the old stories about how Sam Snead would have preferred to play barefoot.

Quote: Originally Posted by newtogolf There are a number of reasons / explanations for memory loss of which multiple concussions are one. I find it ironic that in a sport where hitting your opponent is a major part of the game that people are shocked that there are long term effects from it. What's next, hockey players claiming they didn't know that playing the sport might result in the loss of teeth? It doesn't seem like it was always this way. I heard an interview with Joe Namath recently and he sounds like he's all there (except for his knees). Terry Bradshaw still does TV commentary. Those guys are way older than 44. I saw this in the comment block of the linked article: Quote: The NFL and College and even High School has become the land of the "launch my body/head at ball carrier" as the way to play football instead of the "grill in the chest, arms driven up through the shoulders, and wrapping with your legs never stopping." In Big Boy High School Football, that fundamental stuff gets you cut or benched. All they want is rockets with no fear.

Brett Favre is 44 years old, and having major memory lapses, almost certainly due to head-shots from his lengthy career as a quarterback: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9909288/brett-favre-adds-fodder-head-injury-concerns Not that it ever was, but this just isn't funny anymore.

Why are there special point systems for choosing the Ryder Cup and President's Cup teams? Why not use world rankings?

Perhaps the rules should just be changed then. It's not the business of the "chief honcho of the ladies' league" to be a recruiter for Stanford U.

Sounds a bit Yogi-Berra-ish, doesn't it? Further comments welcome. This thread isn't over 'til it's over.

Anybody for Mark O'Meara?

Freddy says he doesn't want to captain the President's Cup team again. Who would you like to see?

ESPN ran it on the bottom of the screen: 1, 16, 17, 18

I know there's a four-hole aggregate playoff in the event of a tie, but ... Which holes? I've searched theopen.com and other places. I must not be picking the right keywords. Does anyone know?