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My dad and I agreed, Tiger should just retire with dignity and the rest of his millions of dollars... What happened to J.B. Holmes though, I couldn't find him anywhere in the leaderboard after some time? Did J.B. Holmes also retire form tournament, was he sick with flu or something?

why were they adjusting the balls on the fairway, marking the balls and moving them off the markers? Im talking about Tiger's and Bubba's teeshots on the fairway. Why did Sergio ask whether his ball was on the green, then Sergio marked his ball and placed his ball forwards and sideways towards the hole, compared to the ball's original position?

I think bubba has potential, he's obviously trying hard to win but his carefree attitude with the bubba-golf angle is... shall we say unorthodox strategy. But at least two thing have to happen for that. 1. bubba practices putting more 2. bubba hires an actual golf coach with trackman knowledge (so he can hopefully get his big driver misses more in control, in other words less OB shots)

I'm having a bit of a problem also with thoser short irons I think. I suppose it could be bad setup and ball position. My clubhead speed is about 105-110 mph with driver. I hit solid 7-irons at 164 yards, which is ok for the speed. But P wedge and those short irons don't go so as they should be going... You should be getting more accurate and less dispersion in shots as you go up in the loft of the clubs LOL!!!

New theories can be formulated without using an entire body of pre-existing sources to arrive to the conclusion. You can simply test out a situation, doing an experiment. You test a hypothesis. Hypothesis turns out to be true or not. Dan is the experiment himself. He is the volunteering test subject. There is no requirement to use pre-existing sources of golf instruction. Here's an example of the above point... Trackman radar uses scientific principles built into the machine itself. Trackman doesn't care if pga instructors used to think in previous times that club path was the main contributor to slices for example. Trackman simply observes reality through radio waves and records data. Trackman data and analysis of said data, has shown that face-to-path relationship is the truth of the matter to a slicer's problems. But I still agree that the way he started with putting only was quite silly. He's not preparing for mini-golf after all... He's gotta have good ballstriking ability to play good golf.

Ouch shot 53 Handicap barely stays the same, at the buffer zone. I had: 1 par 1 bogey 5 d-bogey 2 t-bogey I did hit a nice 224 yard drive straight middle of fairway, against the wind massively. It was so windy I lost my hat twice and had to run to catch it! All around the day it was very windy. But that drive against wind was about the only positive thing today. I just realized that there are basically two putting techniques in golf. Arc-putting, and straight-to-straight putting. Arc-putting essentially means inside-straight-inside club path. The putter face is opening at the backswing, and putter face closes at the followthrough. Just like a normal golf swing. I've used arc-putting style quite naturally thusfar, but my putter was my dad's old putter. He uses the different technique straight-to-straight, and he put some lead weights into that putter... My dad does the "hunch over ball" putting stroke (straight-to-straight) I think I'm just gonna get rid of the lead tapes and practice arc-putting more in the future. I wish somebody had taught me about these two techniques earlier.

Empirical testing is not science, is that your view? What is exactly your complaint about the scientificness of Dan Plan? From wikipedia "Empirical research is a way of gaining knowledge by means of direct and indirect observation or experience." Clearly dan the plan, is an empirical experiment testing the waters of that 10 000 hours theory. For the record, I have a hunch that Dan will not exactly be the shining start on the PGA tour. I think he needs way more clubhead speed than he currently has to be competitive at that kind of level. I do think that he could get to scratch level though... I do agree with you on that he should post more detailed analysis of his own golf game, so everyone could see what he's up to. See the data so to speak.

At the last tee, 9th hole, 328 yard par4 First of all, there was massive headwind on this particular hole. The wind almost knocked the ball off the tee ( I could observe that the ball was moving slightly on top of the tee, due to the wind pushing it). I lost my hat a couple times too and had to chase it. I hit a nice 224 yard drive straight into the middle of the fairway. That left me with 104 yards to the pin, according to laser. Sadly I kind of fail in the vicinity of the green. driver + 9iron + 56wedge + 8ironchip + putt + putt = 6 double bogey. That 9iron was just a massive pull for some reason, and it buried badly into the rough.

I remember when some golf commentators were interviewing Arnie and reviewing his golf swing back when he was young. The commentators asked him about swing thoughts and whatnot. One noted that Arnie's midriff has been much underrated, after having judged his impact position. "You better explain that" chuckled Arnie back to the commentators...

well I guess Sam Snead is better than Tiger then... Sam was great golfer though, I'm not denying it... maybe top three golfer... hard to really assess...

I do think that the Jack Nicklaus had more effective golf swing than Tiger. How many times did Jack overhaul his swing, in his primetime of career, as they say? Was Nicklaus swing effective or not? If you look at Tiger's win percentage, I think if I recall correctly, it's a tad bit higher than Nicklaus at the moment... We're comparing win percentage of career (tournies participated/ tournies won) However, the comparison is somewhat skewed from Tiger's point of view. He is competing these days, but he's contending less and less. He has suffered so many injuries and surgeries that his age in numbers terms isn't quite reflective of his physical age, the toll on his body. We shall see if he can recover from injuries in 2015, because this has been a downward trend sofar in 2014. Quote from Paul Azinger: "Jack never made those mistakes. Jack understood that if he could stay the same, he would still dominate. Tiger didn't need to get better. He just didn't need to get worse. He needed to stay the same and he could still dominate, and in his quest to get better, it's kind of backfired on him" I used opine that Jim Furyk's swing is just horrible, but he plays well enough with that swing. His father is his coach, I don't think they're trying to change Jim Furyk's swing anymore.

Nicklaus was a beast. Strong bear of the forest! He had probably the best golf swing also, lots of power in that body. Tons of distance for an average size man. Efficiency. Tiger at his prime, was also powerful, but in all honesty Nicklaus would probably equal or even surpass Tiger with all the advancements of modern golf technology. Though it would be a close call I think... Nicklaus really could pound some drives if he wanted to go max power. I'm assuming that young Jack Nicklaus would be transported into the future with a time machine, and Tiger would play against Nicklaus who has successfully acclimated himself to modern golf balls and golf clubs. Nicklaus also had relative good consistency I would think. Jack's top 5 finishes in tournaments attest to that fact of consistent golf. In tournament golf strokeplay, I would put my money on Jack Nicklaus... But in matchplay Tiger vs Nicklaus, Tiger would have better chances I'd wager. Tiger Woods is a wreck. Golf broke Tiger's body down, where as Nicklaus is still happily golfing in his senior days at the Champions tour... as far as I know. His dominant swing was only in effect in 1990s and early 2000s. Tiger's dominant swing is no more. He has sustained too many injuries. This to me personally was just a sad thing to finally realize because I used to be a huge Tiger fan in my earlier years. Tiger really got me into trying out golf for the first time as a kid. The Tiger effect. Maybe this tidbit is slightly skewing my opinion towards Nicklaus's superiority as a golfer over Tiger... Tiger's was not a swing for a lifetime as is plainly evident, sadly.

I was hitting some nice 7-irons on trackman. About 165 total distance 7-irons... 150 carry. Not exactly at maximum power more like 80%powerlevel. (or so it felt) the teacher gave me a good tip which worked, actually, strangely enough. "don't aim at the top of the ball - aim about half an inch behind the ball and thereby take a small divot" I most likely had a brain block going on in my golf swing. I had been practising too much off hitting mats. And I had suffered earlier a hand muscle strain because of a duffed shot.

lost to my dad by one hole... he played really nice golf shots though...

it means little boy

8- iron because I chip with it, and also it's a nice club anyways but another favorite club is 56deg lob wedge titleist vokey. Sometimes I use it from sand from tough lies, sometimes I lob with it just for fun and variety's sake.

Does the book offer statistical strategy with regards to different type of golf courses and grass and rough conditions? I.e. links golf, different type of grass, penalizing rough (i.e. finding ball not likely)

Is it mainly stableford which are the handicapping rounds in Britain? What about 'Straya, down under, as they say? I have to say that as a relative beginner golfer, I'm not exactly happy... about those sub-36 points rounds... more like: 37+ Happy, because it was well played round. It also lowers handicap somewhat. 32 - 36 Satisfied, because it was well-enough, average but still quite well-played round. No major mistakes you could say. Handicap stays same. below 31 it starts to raise the handicap already. But what can you do except bite the bullet? Do better next time !

The level of debate in the former Mike Austin thread was somewhat apalling. The debate was filled with logical fallacies e.g. "red herring" on both sides of the argment. Anyhow, here's some differences and similarities that I've learned from Steve Pratt, a Mike Austin-golf teacher based in California. I don't claim to be the Mike Austin swing expert but here's some thoughts about the swing principles. I don't claim to know the mastery of the golf swing, or whatever, but because it was the topic that was discussed earlier, albeit somewhat rudely, I wanted to clear some issues. I can say personally that I've experienced slight distance gain with my irons, with the Mike Austin style swing. I would estimate about 10 yards improvement thusfar with my irons. I still have a lot of progress to make with this new golf swing. Especially to get the woods dialled in, and get more consistency overall. The downside of the Mike Austin swing is realistically its usefulness to the short game shots. What you quite simply have to do, is to make partial swings with short game shots , bunker, pitch, lob and chip. It's not easy to make partial swings with consistency as a beginner. Also, it's not exactly an easy swing to learn properly it seems. It's a complicated motion or so it seems to be, when described in words. Compared to more simpler mechanic of the conventional swing e.g. Adam Scott (he is thought to represent conventional golf swing quite well) -steady head is a common feature of Mike Austin swing, same or similar to the theory behind 5sk. Keep the head steady between the feet (at an imaginary vertical line, between the feet) -Weight is shifted to the backleg. The center of mass is moving towards the backleg. Left leg flexes, right leg straightens, just like Bubba does it for example. From my understanding the weight distribution should be about 20% on the left leg, and 80% on the right leg at the top of the backswing. - at the downswing, you have to slide the hips forward to the left leg. The left leg must straighten, and the right leg must flex. This leg action is quite symmetrical movement compared to the backswing leg action. - The way to set the club at address is similar to what Sam Snead used to do. Slight kick in of the right knee, and slight forward slide of the left hip at the start of the backswing. This prevents the shoulders from being open at adress. - The idea of the golf swing is to let the inertia of the club work towards your goal of fast swing speed. The idea is NOT to strain your muscles against the inertia of the club (the chicken wing effect is a very bad thing in this swing). The idea is to promote "centrifugal force" in the golf swing. pga golfers who seemingly incorporated Mike Austin- style principles in the swing include : Sam Snead, Jack Nicklaus and Fred Couples.

that being said, I think the drive was still quite well hit, I don't think the effect of wind diminishes that fact! I think without so much wind, it would still definitely have been bubba long drive (about 350 yards) the overall distance was measured at 515 yards. No cartpath bounces, though it was a summer golf fairway. All of these facts would point towards a long carry distance for this particular drive. I guess it would depend on the physics involved, quite simply you would have to know how much does wind actually affect positively the golf ball when its aided by a downwind.

What are your thoughts on this late-American golfer and his ideas for the ideal golf swing? Mike Austin, the infamous golf instructor and golfer, studied engineering and kinesiology as part of his education and claimed to have figured out a powerful but also accurate golf swing. He passed away in 2005. Mike Austin also used to hold the world's longest golf drive recorded in a professional golf tournament. That drive went over 500 yards, and it was struck with steel shafted persimmons driver in Nevada, in 1974 American senior golf tournament. And it seems that there was no asphalt cart path involved either in the result. Although warm weather and downwind conditions did help him somewhat.

good job mate! I did the same today. It was scorching hot day for golf, at 86 F totally new course for me, sadly I shot 59, at the back 9 holes yardage was a manly length of 6400 yards My hot streak in stableford golf ended today, with that bad score of 59... With that new score, my hcp rises up a little bit... But you can't win everytime at golf, right? I was just kind of disappointed at my many duffs and tops off the tee, today. But, I'm taking a trackman lesson next week, so I'm hoping to get some swing analysis pretty soon.

-59 strokes on 9 holes -a lot of duffs and tops sadly -no balls lost though, which was nice. -even still handicap rises upwards 0,2 (such sadness... I will have to do better next time when I play over there...) -course was in beautiful shape, it was rated top 20 golf course in the country, greens were immaculate -course 71,6 / 127 -6408 yards, a manly yardage... -temperature was 86 F -the course felt insanely hard at those yellow tees. It wasn't so much the distance perhaps, it's that you couldn't really bomb it on some of those teeboxes. Some par4s were classified as long par4s. -the teeboxes were insanely hard, it felt. Blocking tall trees combined with sharp dogleg, together with good length par5s, it makes for a hard combo. (maybe because long irons felt insecure today at the golf course). Basically this forces you to hit long-irons or mid-irons into the fairway unlesss you're Bubba who can easily shape the ball. At least that's how I understood the back nine holes... I dunno, it was the first time playing on that course. I think they really made the course hard for a tournament on the following day... Some of the pins were quite hard, especially with those fast greens... -greens were fastest I've ever played at, courtesy of hot baking sun in the Finnish summer!!!

Yea it will definitely be intresting to see how jamie sadlowski contends at remax this year. He'ssponsored by callaway this time and theyve been figuring out specs for a new driver for him. He said in an interview that he's been impressed by the durability of some of callaway's long drive model clubs. He also claimed to have gained some yardage with the club change but we shall see... Long drivers are simply breaking their driver heads in those competitions so there's a bit of uncertainty along the match whether the club is ok or not. So they say, so says the sports commentator art sellinger who is a former long driver competitor.

Depends on how much distance you got beaten by Lol I.e. was it a close call defeat or a crushing one?