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To OP, in completely anecdotal and unscientific terms if you shove/push/thrust a club onto the ball then it's more of a hit and if you have to work to keep it from flying away from you then you prolly swinging it.. haha. Naw, really? Isn't it the guy who take 13 practice swings till he feels the right 'whoosh' and only then he steps up to the ball? 😜 Okay jokes aside, I think the truth is a golf 'swing' is prolly at best a combo and as @iacas said, what we feel can change even within a round. I think a lot about my mechanics but have put very little thought in trying to classify it as a swing or a hit. FWIW, not sure how useful it is.

Yes, 95% of time stock swing/adjust club to stay as close to stock club yardage. I rarely end up with a desired result anytime I get cute with my swing.

I listened to Dr. Norton's interview/podcast last year on IIRC, Huberman. Worth listening and yes, demonizing HFCS or sugars in general as independent agents of obesity is at best misinformed. But from a dependent risk perspective the easiest thing for me to remember as a good reason to control sugar intake is that those who tend to have high sugar intake also tend to have high caloric intake. Outside of genetic factors and type of calories to an extent, in general, caloric surplus continues to be a singularly consistent factor in determining how overweight you are going to. I don't care if you fast for 16-18 hours. or any other time-managed eating. You can only eat so much before you start storing more than you will ever use.

Ahh the 'gap wood'. Allegedly more control than a traditional driver and more distance than a 3-wood. While it sounds logical on paper, the more I think about it, the more I am confounded by the existence of this tool. Bit skeptical that most us weekenders that are not better than maybe a 2- handicap can effectively land in this 'uncharted' thin gap between a 3 wood and a driver with any sort of reasonable consistency. For me the venn diagram of these two traditional clubs from a control perspectives is almost a single circle given the wide (and diffused) yardage and direction spreads. @ChetlovesMer, name her "Minnie" and maybe will hunt you some good will..😝. Kidding aside, I am interested on how it works out for you. Not too proud to be singing a different song if convinced. Have fun!

TPC Sawgrass and WHOF courses first week of Feb and then back to Pinehurst in April. Nice set! Grand Cypress is a favorite in the area. +10...!

As seen from a FO perspective, yes?

Butt up against couch pillow and slight wrist 'drop' at start of A4 to A5.

Daughter got me a "I'd rather be Golfing' mug. Has a dimple pattern and all. Daddy's happy!

So got fitted in a 35" Odyssey Microhinge Double wide 'blade' yesterday at GG. Choice was between it, SQ to SQ, LAB DF3, Rose Axis and Mizuno Craft (also a double wide). Apparently I'm pretty good a aiming right of the hole consistently regardless of putter type. But it all came down to distance control and the insert feel. We hit puts in the putting area for the fitting but then ended up on the aisle carpet to hit long 40ish feet putts. Which is where the Microhinge did the best for my stroke. The Mizuno was a close second. The DF3 and Axis weren't bad either but I just felt really confident over the Microhinge and slightly soft but firm contact resonated so well. FWIW, I wanted to like the lie-angle balanced putters more than I did and was prepared to spend a bit. I guess putting is the individualistic aspect of our game. Hopefully, I didn't leave anything on the table. Anyone who knows my putting knows I need all the help I can get.

The driver swing honestly feels good. Haven't played in a/the course for a bit but did pretty good at the sim place yesterday. The idea has been to reduce twisting shaft instinctively at impact. For this have weakened left hand grip considerably. Pushed higher up in the hollow of the palm to take out index finger and thumb in pressure application which is a major are major contributors of shaft twisting at impact. On the flip side, right hand grip is way down in the lower part of the middle fingers. Not using index or thumb much at all. It also is designed to prevent getting underneath the shaft too much at impact. More of a float-loady 'paint the ball' feel through the ball. Overall address and neutral grip keeps both lead and trail sides on respective sides of the shaft instead of over or underneath the shaft. It seems it allows/promotes moving the shaft/club unit in unison with wrist/elbow/shoulder joints similar to an elephant swinging it's trunk. It does not feel like I am guiding the club path or trying to control club face at all. Fairly organic. Playing TPC Sawgrass in about a month. Will see how it all holds up. I hear its a good test.. heh.

Yeah, that's what I am suggesting OP check. If he does not have a grip issue then great. It's not unheard of grip issues causing duck hooks. Anyway I don't have a horse in the race. Good luck to the OP.

It is hard to roll your trail palm underneath the grip (and further up in the palm) which puts the wrist in flexion? What am I missing?

Yes, correct. Trail hand wrist in flexion at address. And grip up in palm. I mean he is hitting duck hooks. You can hit them with any path with trail palm turned under the grip. I wouldn't eliminate that as a possibility sight unseen. Extreme outward path highly unlikely for a high handicapper. $5 says trail palm cradling the grip from way under.

Matt, the equation is simple from my perspective. Stronger the grip, greater the potential of application for twist torque at impact. And if it it is combined with an extreme outward path as you say, god help you. Not too many skilled players with super strong grips, are there? Sure, it's all about match-ups but the connection to super strong grips and duck hooks is common from what I see and have dealt with myself.

I'm probably preaching to the choir with your background, but I'm sure most retailers worth their business salt will price it for some combination of: delivered cost + current perceived market value + expected lower revenue for slow moving inventory + expected obsolescence. The 'market value' might be the largest component. Retailers with low inventory build to order for long lead times have lower obsolescence recover cost added but it really hurts the impulsive buyer market, which is big when there is all this hoopla raging. The impulsive buyer also tends to pay more. I'm guessing that LAB wont make you wait unless you want custom tweaked stuff.

I think it's rare for someone to be consistently hitting low hard dipping duck hooks without a super strong grip. I can't comment on anything else without seeing their swing.

Yeah, can't say anything about the Revealer as no experience. Went by my first hand experience with the putter as posted. Lift heel like Stricker? If yes, not a fan in general but I get what you are saying. Very interested in what you find out. I think I'm bit more easily influenced by short term trials but I thought it had merit in that it did what it claims. No more, no less.

Quite a few LAB putters in our league and must have hit 50 odd putts with two design variations this summer at the practice green. Also spent 30 minutes at GG messing around with it few weekends ago. My two cents: It is disingenuous to say zero torque putters are totally placebo. Dynamically balanced lie-angle has some merit. Take a few strokes and you will quickly realize there is zero heel or toe drag (as advertised) due to the putter head's own MOI. That's not nothing. It seems to reduce rotational hand manipulation (twist torque) to keep face square. YMMV but again, that's not nothing. Of course there is still gear effect due to off-center strikes but they are not claiming to cure that. The jury on the forward leaning grip is out but I certainly like the feel. Impact with slightly rising hands seems natural. I'm not in love with it but then I have never been in love with anything about putting. The funny look is a bit off putting but I'm considering it. @ChetlovesMer, we use only a fraction of our power in a putting stroke and when either heel or toe lags dynamically you counter it dynamically with ever so slight more twist 'power', which adds a degree of variability. IMHO nothing beats an actual trial to find out for yourself.

Well then here's a dad joke for you.. Do you know the music to listen to while playing Bandon Dunes?.. Random Tunes. Heh heh. Groan..groan..

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A strong grip cups the wrist (lead) and then it wants to flatten through impact, something I used to be able to avoid to keep it from going left and protecting my forearm (the main premise of my set up). Longer the club, harder it is becoming. Either way, yes, I need to transition to gripping it open.

Nothing exposes low point control, and for that matter the general quality of ball striking like tight lies. Lol! I am at a crossroad. My days of playing with a super strong left hand grip are coming to an end it seems. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to maintain proper face control through impact as the club face naturally wants to turn over. The quality of strike and ball flight difference when I weaken the grip is stark. Problem is a weaker grip is at odds with my poor sore left forearm which I have been nursing for last few days after 3 days of demanding golf. As of now I will continue my 'transition' to a weaker grip with woods and hopefully my forearm will condition as I go along. Maybe someday I'll get to a normal address with irons too.

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