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Just got what I think is an affordable deal on a Cleveland XL driver ($51), but in a brief online search haven't found matching fairway woods. Does anyone know if they produced fairway woods for the XL, or if they waited until the XLS driver was released to produce a new set?

Course, I'm playing 9 holes at a time, so that means i've gotta shoot in the forties twice in a row. But hey, we'll see.

congrats ... I'm looking forward to joining you ... some day

I was using a lynx predator sand wedge for a while there. I think that's from the 70s or 80s.

my dad is a big fan of hitting an iron off that first tee. I'm starting to think the best think you can do is just get up there and rip that first drive as quick as you can (within reason). The more you stand there, the more tight you get.

As a high handicapper, I love it when I'm able to recover from a poor tee shot and salvage a bogey when a double or worse seems guaranteed.

I always start out directly behind the ball, facing the direction I want the shot to go. I set my left hand grip (i'm a righty) at that point, then swing around and line up the club for the shot. Directionally, I think it helps me stay online.

Hmmm ... sounds like a good ploy. I'll have to give it a rumble.

Absolutely, get a lesson. I tried the "Play my way out of it" for a long time, and while the guys you play with mean well, none of them can see your swing/show you what you're doing right/wrong with video like an instructor can. There's some pride in saying you're self-taught, but I'd save yourself the frustration.

I'd be curious to see what the average green size is. The guys I play with say our course has really small greens, so it makes it more difficult to hit G-I-R. I need to find a benchmark number for curiosity's sake.

We have five city courses, at least three or four country club courses and half a dozen or more small town courses sprinkled within half an hour. At least.

I think walking helps build the mental toughness you need to play the game. You're fighting fatigue and trying to stay sharp.

Definition of a good player? As far as I'm concerned, if you're shooting 90 or better, than you're a "good" player. That means you've got a realistic shot at par every hole, and your game is good enough that you can minimize the damage of a mishit and escape with a bogey or better. If you're breaking 80, then you're really good. If you can break par, that's a great effort.

Par 3 hole that I'd never parred before: Since I didn't manage to screw any of them up, then it's a tie between the 5-iron that got me just off the green, the chip that got me within six-eight feet and the putt that fell for the par. Woo-haa.

Shot a 55 on a par 36 nine-hole course. Drives suffered early — grounders and duffed swings. Still trying to groove my swing with my woods. I think I'm overswinging them. Doomed me to a triple bogey on the par 5 #2. Had a nice par on a 150-yard par-3. Had my patented "collapse hole" on the par-4 #6. Just off the green after my third shot, chipped over the green for 4, chipped back way past the hole for 5, and had an abysmal three-put to settle for a quad-bogey. For me, mid-50s is pretty average, so I won't complain too much. Definitely had some lost opportunities to creep closer to 50, though.

1) 50% driving accuracy 2) Shoot 49 or better on my home nine-hole course 3) Find a set of woods that I'm willing to stick with for the next three-four years

Inconsistency off the tee, primarily. It's not like I want to hit it 250 everytime. At my skill level, I'd be happy with a 180-200 yard drive that gives me a consistent shot at making bogey. But all it takes is one unfortunate tee swing and next thing I know I'm scrambling to save a double.

*chuckle* I almost had to threadjack my own thread. :) May as well re-ask the question, just for good measure: Still looking for info on the Patriot Missile II line of fairway woods -- anyone know if there are a driver and/or 7-wood floating around out there? I have a 3-wood and 5-wood I hit pretty well I'd like to match up. Thanks for any assistance.

I like to hunt around for deals on golf clubs at thrift stores and garage sales, personally. You can find a full set of clubs for $20 or less. And not just on cheapo Northwestern-style blades. One set I bought for my wife included a full set of Wilson Aggressor SG cavity-back irons, which are designed to be better for less-accomplished golfers.

Just two ... a mizuno cimarron pitching wedge (not sure of the angle), and a 56 degre lynx predator sand wedge.

Good point.

This is a question that's been gnawing at me for a few months. I have a set of second-hand clubs I bought from a guy for cheap that included two Callaway knockoffs called the "Patriot Missile II" (a 3-wood and a 5-wood.) I knew they were knockoffs when I bought them (my game isn't good enough to spend big dollars on actual Callaways yet), but after doing some research a bit later I found out that the company who produced them, Wood Arts, was, in fact, successfully sued by Callaway for copyright infringement, had to pay a settlement and was forced to stop selling these and a bunch of other illegally copied clubs. Plus, a bunch of clubs they had produced were seized by the government. Funny thing is, I actually hit them pretty well. So these are my questions: 1) Is anyone familiar with this line of clubs? I don't condone counterfeiting, but I'm curious if there was a matching driver and/or 7-wood made, and if so, if there are some still floating around and available for cheap cheap cheap? (Like, five bucks or less cheap.) 2) If Wood Arts paid a settlement to Callaway and admitted their wrongdoing in a court of law, are they still considered illegal clubs? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I'm going to stick with Jack until Tiger officially passes him in majors.

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