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I apologize. I am not trying to give anyone advice on anything. I am simply stating my opinion on it. I don't have facebook but I could see how that would be annoying. In my opinion however I do think that if you're someone who legitimately has to ask yourself the question that is in the title of this thread, there are some deeper issues already there in your relationship. I am glad that your new marriage is going well and hope everybody can find something like that. Then we can all golf our asses off and have women who support it.

Couldn't agree more. Exactly my point this whole time. Apparently I'm presumptuous though. At least someone who's divorced agrees with me. The bottom line is if you're a man you make your own decisions. Those decisions involve respecting and taking care of your girl. If you do that and she has an issue then she is not right because she has her own issues. If you aren't man enough to stand up for yourself that's just as big of a problem.

Are we having the same conversation? What does any of what you said here have to do with what I'm saying? The bolded means these people are way past the point of going golfing being a problem. You're acting like dealing with divorce every day makes you an expert. What you do for a living isn't relevant, and neither is admitting you've been divorced. That might actually just prove my point more. Just relax and quit defending people who aren't even here. The only people who have responded have agreed with me. Calm down and accept that people out there who aren't divorced have a different opinion than you.

I'm not flippantly saying anything. I'm not superior to anyone. If you allow someone to tell you that you can or can't do something that makes you happy, then you need to address it with them. If they're unwilling to change you're with the wrong person. Relationships are about making each other better, not tearing each other down. If your relationship does that, you're in a crappy one. If you're a man who lets your wife tell you what to do and when to do it, you're not a man. Again, an example of being a human and understanding a relationship from both sides. Pretty simple. Anyone who tells you not to do the things that you enjoy is not someone who truly cares about you. They're someone who cares more about themselves. So I'm right, but because I said it and you didn't, I'm wrong. I couldn't be any less presumptuous. I'm just stating something that's obvious. I'm sorry that it clearly makes you uncomfortable. Yeah it's not very nice or correct to try and empower people and get them to understand that they deserve to be happy in a relationship and that it takes two (including their wife/girlfriend, and not just them bending over backwards to please someone). I'm sorry your marriage didn't work out. If somebody finds what I'm saying insulting they should probably look in the mirror and figure out if it's because there's some truth to it and that's why they're offended. Until somebody who is actually in that position disagrees, I don't think they need you defending them.

AKA you're a human being who understands what it means to be in a relationship and your wife does as well. Unfortunately not everybody does. Glad there's at least one other person out there who understands how relationships are supposed to work.

Yeah, it's really not. You're just with the wrong person.

I could never imagine being in a relationship where the other person told me what I could or couldn't do, and when I could or couldn't do it. I'm a grown man. Which in and of itself means I understand what's important and whether or not it's interfering with something. A girl who says, "You can't do this because you do it too much and I want you to do X" is not someone who you want to be in a relationship with. The one who understands the things you enjoy and that make you happy and encourages you to do those things is the type of person we all should be with. That being said, you don't act braindead and schedule a tee time when her parents are coming over. It's just common sense, and you do that because you actually care about her. If you don't, then you probably shouldn't be in the relationship to begin with. But if you're with a woman who tells you that you can't do something just because she doesn't like it or thinks that you do it too much? Uhh yeah...no.

He just was never in good situations. Seemed like every shot I saw him take he was in a bad spot. Then when he actually had a decent drive and was set up for what should be a reasonable approach shot, he wasn't getting close enough for birdie. That Par 5 at the end pretty much summed up the tournament for him. He was actually creeping back towards the cut line and then hit that drive into the rough. Thought he had enough to get it to the green and instead it ended up short and into whatever that rough/water was in front of the green.

It still tells me that it isn't allowed in my country...I'm in the U.S....I don't know. Thank you very much though. Yeah something tells me this has nothing to do with it. I think the golf course just ate him up today. It happens. I don' think for a second it has anything to do with motivation. It's just golf.

Thanks. It says it's not compatible with my android though. The PGA is terrible.

There's seriously no way to watch any of the morning coverage the first few days?

I am pretty new to golf. Really only been golfing for a month. When I went to the putting green for the first time my immediate thoughts were, "wow, putting is going to be a huge problem." The second time I went to the putting green I tried LHL and felt better instantly. Like others in this thread I'm someone who has always felt better playing hockey left handed and hitting a backhand in tennis despite being right hand dominant. I don't know anything about anything, but I would bet that has a lot to do with how comfortable a person feels. It made the putter feel much smoother. Putting regular it seemed impossible not to break my wrists. However, after reading this I do agree with the point that was made that lag putts seem more difficult. I have had a very hard time with putts of significant distance. End up way short on them end up three putting because of how off I was.

The other day on the course there was a foursome. Two guys and two gals. They were foreign and barely spoke any English. The entire round they spent getting up behind their women and showing them how to swing the club and hit the ball. We were a few pairs behind them and this is an executive course that is really family oriented, so slower play is understood. But this was crazy. This wasn't waiting on a nine year old and family of four. This was two couples probably in their 50s legitimately trying to teach their women how to play while on the course. By the time they were willing to let people through they were heading to the 8th hole. Took 2 1/2 hours to get through nine. The worst part was people coming up behind and getting mad about us playing slower. We tried explaining to them that there was nowhere for us to go because when we get to the next hole there will be two pairings waiting to tee off. Why would you take them on the course to teach them? I don't understand.

I was getting serious blisters on both thumbs every time I went when I first started. It was so bad I was only able to go about once a week because of how raw it was. I wasn't wearing a right handed glove but I was still blistering through the glove on the left hand. Once it callused up a little bit I haven't had a problem since then. Guess the skin just had to get used to being used there and now it's fine and no issues when I play.

Yeah I get what you're saying. I crushed a 7I off the tee on a Par 3 that was listed at 156. Slightly downhill and ended up over the green and in the woods. Was one of the best 7I I ever hit and it ended up in a drop and a triple. It sucks when you feel like you're hitting it well and still can't make numbers.

That makes me think about how whenever I'm putting I'm never actually thinking about the putt. The only thing going through my mind is "You're already on your fifth shot...this 10 footer is for double."... Then I hit it three feet and end up three putting for a snowman.

I played a challenging executive course for the first time ever yesterday (only previous experience golfing on a a very flat, very short Par 3 course). The elevation and hills were brand new to me but I hit my irons really well. Hit an 8 iron on a downslope 140 yards uphill and onto the green and landed it five feet from the hole. Problem was the 7th hole I shot 9 both times on the Par 4. Add in 10 penalty strokes because of there being no opportunity to play a ball off the tee if you miss the fairway (woods) and that's 20 additional strokes. Even if I double bogey that hole both times and cut the penalties from tee shots out I've legitimately shot 15 strokes better. So yeah I hear you on feeling like you played better than the scorecard indicates. I should have realized the driver wasn't working early instead of attempting it again on every Par 4. Felt more like a 90 and ended up a 105.

Compared to almost every other commercial out there, they're really not that bad. You've got all the awful car insurance commercials. You've got Kars for Kids. You've got got car commercials. Then you've got LOCAL car commercials. As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, the golf dinosaur commercials really aren't that bad.

Whatever you feel comfortable with. I had terrible issues with my driver yesterday so I used a 5 Iron to tee off on one hole because I was much more comfortable with my irons than my driver/woods/hybrid yesterday. If you play with people they might bust your chops and try and get you to hit driver anyways, but just play what you want. Who cares. I'd rather be on the fairway at 150 yards in than take a penalty after slicing forty yards out of bounds. This x100. I don't understand why people care so much about other people. If you want to compete with someone before you start then you're obviously agreeing to play by the same rules. Otherwise who cares? I play by the rules (to the best of my knowledge) and keep my own score. Doesn't matter to me one bit if the guy I'm with is lying about his. I care about myself and how much I'm improving. One of the things I like about golf is that since I'm not someone who is super competitive (with other people), I'm able to challenge myself with the golf course.

First time ever on a course that wasn't basically 7 out of 9 holes that were 100 yards. Played 18 on a 9 hole course that's 30.1/99 par 62. Shot a 105 with 10 penalty strokes (mostly from the driver slice costing me two strokes off the tee right away with balls into the woods). Thought I had the driver figured out at the range and then today the slice was back. Irons were great. Can't complain one bit. If anything I hit the ball better than I anticipated at times given the challenge of elevation and cost myself penalties from sizing down and hitting the ball great. Putting was an absolute nightmare. Forty one of them. Considering it was my first time ever playing a legitimate golf course (by my standards anyways) I was pretty happy. I'd have to say a +43 is not a good day, but it honestly didn't feel that bad. Even though I suck. This course has almost no leeway if you don't hit things straight though. It's all woods surrounding the fairways and the greens so almost nothing is playable, even if you're just a little left or right and it bounces. The end result is your ball is most likely unable to be found and even if it is you have to take a drop.

I have only started golfing recently and do not know much. What I do know is that since I started I had the most egregious slice on my driver. Today when I went to the range I changed one thing and everything clicked. This thread is full of so much comprehensive information. I was slicing the ball a good 40-50 yards right every single time I hit it. I couldn't figure out how to explain it but the description on the first page about revving downward on a motorcycle handle is EXACTLY it. I would hold my driver like normal. I'm a right handed golfer so the left/top hand was essentially cupped around the club. The handle laid in the top part of my palm, just below the start of the fingers. My knuckles were facing the ground. By rotating my hand so that my wrist was not laying comfortably along the path of my arm and cupping the handle of the club, and making it so my knuckles were facing outward toward the target (the revving of the motorcycle), I was able to hit everything straight and with a slight draw. I know very little about the technicalities of the golf swing. All I know is that as someone who was slicing the ball 40-50 yards right every single time that this tiny little change was immediately effective. It feels strange and a little uncomfortable at first. But once you get used to it the results are amazing. Just rotate that top/left wrist out toward the target with the knuckles facing out. It's incredible the difference I've seen.

Shot a 38 on a par 29. The best part for me was that during my warm up bucket I figured out how to hit my driver straight for the first time. Hit four perfect tee shots before going out. Hit a perfect drive on the first par 4. It was so good I had to hit a second shot just to see if I actually knew what I was doing. Second shot ended up right next tot he first one. Even worked when I used my 4H off the tee on a longer par three. Finally figuring out how to not hit that driver with slice onto the next fairway was awesome.

I play mine which is a Par 29 with two Par 4s and I've shot anywhere from a +9 to +17 but I'm brand new to golf. The times that I've shot extremely poorly are when I try and use my driver/hybrid/3wood on the tee at the Par 4s and end up in the water to the left or on the next fairway to the right. Those Par 4s will usually end up in an 8 or a 9 if that happens which ruins everything. When I shot +9 recently I was finally able to have a better feel for which irons to use on which holes and even when I ended up wide left or right of the green I was pretty accurate judging the distance. From there I just needed to find a way to make a good pitch or chip. A lot of times I'll end up with a 5 or a 6 on a hole that I actually made a good first shot on because I'll flub a chip and then end up three putting.

Yeah but I have less of a problem with somebody like you saying it like that than I do people trying to legitimately tear the guy down or something. It's sports. There's plenty of guys I don't like either just because. I like Spieth just because I like him. I also enjoy the humility because of how rare it is. At the same time I used to love Terrell Owens because he was such a hot dog. I'm fine with somebody that has your take it on it as long as they're able to admit that they don't like him just because they don't want to like him. It's another thing when you try and start acting like the kid has actually done something wrong or is probably secretly a dick or something.

That's what you took out of my initial comment? Moving on....