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I had the pc's and then the FTX's. Loved them, especially the pc's...may resurrect them one day. The 8 iron shaft broken in the hosel though, so got to fix that. my 2 iron is pristine, never could really hit that thing.

If it's mizuno I would want them. They make great playable clubs, if you hit them well then you hit them well.

Unless the divot is perfect and the ground is moist we sand and see our divots with mix, they have a better regrowth rate that way. If you kick up the edges of the divot slightly with your club there is less to no chanceof a ball ending up in there. its courtesy for other golfers but not enough people actually do it.

Quote: Originally Posted by lville lefty The two common stats for rounds under 80 are; seven greens in regulation 30 or less putts per round Do that and you will regularly break 80. How to reach these objectives is the hard part. It is that simple. Last time I played 13 GIR and 36 putts and 1 OB (2 penalty strokes) SCORE 80. (thanks scorecard v2) That round for me is above avg on GIR and below avg on putts, but greens had been sanded the week before so lags were not quite as close. In any case, I think the formula above is a good one to breaking 80 and it highlights the short game, keeping the ball in play and hitting some greens.

I'm happy. I couldn't put too much slope in but we do have a couple of features that affect the ball. Mine is about 450 sf with three cups, that is plenty and I can roll some 22' putts to check my tempo. It rolls true, though I think I need to invest in a landscape roller to roll it every few months or so. SWG will come out for a very nominal fee every couple of years to check everything and roll it if warranted. We rarely putt from edge to edge unless I have a couple of buddies over, usually we play chipping games if anything. Way more fun, since we always two putt from anywhere on the green (for the most part) If I had limitless funds and space, it would be bigger with more features for chipping and ptiching. Though we can hold shots from the upper deck, which is about 35 yads away. As far as putting, I spend most of my time honing my stroke from 8' and in on the area of the green that I had the guys make dead level (I checked it myself prior to the turf installation). As far as game improvement, that has been the biggest factor.

Update: It's nice to have a bigger green like this to chip to, but mainly I use the flat areas I set up to keep up on my stroke and practice filling the cup with 4 to 8 footers. So far, upkeep has been nil and it's holding up nicely. We've chipped from as far as we can maybe 40yds and the green will accept the shots without a problem and take the spin on all shots including 3 to 4' off of the green checkers. But, if you want to improve your putting I'm pretty convinced that a green with an 8 to 10' max straight putt is all you need. I go out for 10 minutes at a time once to three times a week and the night before I play. My putting stats have improved greatly, gone are the 33 putts a round...amazing what making more 3 to 5 footers will do. I also bought a copy of my gamer and a dozen of the balls I regularly play to just keep at the green, makes it even easier to get some practice in. Will report back later after we've had some rain to see how it does.

i went artificial and it's awesome, improved my stats from 5' by a lot already.

I agree, follow up bad with something that puts you back in play and aim for a bogey...two bad shots limit it to a double. Sometimes though you just have to channel your inner Bubba and believe in yourself, but be truthful about the results and know where you can miss.

I tend to agree. I have a few putters but my gamer the last three years cost under $80. Odyssey #9 brand new. I have two....just in case.

I don't know much either but I've heard it from two different superintendents who run nice ranges and courses. Either way they make it work. You should also consider that given a certain laid out area for the day you're leaving more edge area and that the fill being spread out has a better chance or remaining in the future since it's adjacent to much more established sod. It's pretty evident that it seems to work on our range, but then again I take divots in a clean line one after the other because that is how I use my sandtrap alignement aid. :) So I'm not helping the cause, but I got nice organized divots. Edit: most people do not take nice divots leaving some roots. Most don't make divots and a lot make really deep ones. Really deep divots all in a line take a while to regrow and compact to nice sod. They'll grow grass but the ground will be soft. We have some gougers at our club, and I can walk the range and tell where they practiced weeks afterwards even though it's been filled and raked smooth.

Some supers differ and think the grass grows in better and faster when the divots are not all linked together.

On my course, when the pins are on the back of the green is when we see the most unrepaired ball marks. [put hard hat on/] Typically left by less skilled players who skip the ball in and only ever land on the front of the green and can't be bothered to walk 50' to see if they even made a ball mark. I just fix the ones I can, when I can. Overall our course has been making a push for everyone to have a little more ownership in taking care of it...ballmarks, divots, bunkers etc.....and it's better. There are still people though who can't be bothered to fix a ball mark, put sand in a divot or rake a bunker smooth enough.

Tell him to pay attention to how the pros do it, not state am champs.

Some tournaments aren't worth entering in. Most of these tournaments are definitely not worth it. Sounds like sandbagging to me. It could happen once, but three times.

This.

Serious overthink all around here. go out have fun, keep it light. give her a couple of pointer at the beginning, keep it simple. If she asks for more, help. go to the range beat some balls, putt a little. If she has fun it could be rewarding for the both of you. If she really gets into it get her some lessons. I see that you're a college student, go out have fun and don't listen to the old farts. If you can play golf with her she might be a keeper.

Me too. would be more interesting.

I use my range finder. We have both stakes on the side of the fairway at 150 and sprinklerheads with distances front, center, back. The stakes are not that good but the sprinklers are, problem is that it takes a while to find and pace. Flat markers in the fairway are much easier for the mowers. When I go to a new course, rangefinder. Mine ranges off of everything so I don't bother many times with the $8 yardage book unless I want a souvenir. Usually a map of the holes is on the scorecard.

We're getting a little off track here. thanks for getting us back on the tracks. caveat emptor is what everyone is trying to say. I don't care if you're a pga pro, don't teach your significant other how to play golf. Your kids maybe...your wife...nope.

Get her some lessons, they can even be group lessons for the both of you. Don't give advice, and if you do usually do it as an answer to something she asks you. No one like unsolicited advice, we don't do it to our male playing partners why is this different. It's better if her teacher is not you. I've also found that it's better if she likes the pro irregardless of the pro's qualifications. Make sure it's fun and be patient. Invest in her game, get her some clubs that work for her. A fitting is probably not necessary at first, she most likely will pick clubs that are cute and well packaged. It's a good way to start. And that is all that is needed here, a fun start! If she wants to spend more time on it later and get more serious, support it then. For now I say keep it fun and hopefully she won't get frustrated and enjoy golf almost as much as you do. My wife and I have a rule we set up a long time ago. I only give advice when asked and the only unsolicited advice I'm allowed to give is in case she is aligned way to the right (common problem). She's a good golfer and we have a lot of fun. She doesn't play very often, but likes to take lessons and takes it seriously when we do.

I agree.

I understand that. I'm saying it will be short lived or become a tournament populated by very low ranked players. The athletes will not want to compromise their schedule or travel for higher more prestigious events and there will be locales with out the proper venue that will not want to build a golf course.

I usually look for a name tag and scratch it off before anyone can see and then sell it on ebay. just kidding. keep it with me during the round and hopefully someone will come back or something. If they don't I leave it at the pro shop or with the cart guys. If there is a number on the club, I'll call it and leave a message as to where I left it.

Olympic golf will be like Olympic tennis and will get no love from the general public. I don't see Olympic golf as a long time sport in the Olympics. Golfers play on a national stage that already takes country of origin into play. How many times to we see stats referring to country of origin and "world" rankings. Olympic golf will be a joke. The Ryder cup works well because it plays on a USA vs the world mentality and has an edge reminiscent of the cold war. The Olympics no longer have that, unless something really bad happens or the middle East becomes extremely competitive in gymnastics. The birth of Olympic golf is well placed as a vehicle to grow the game of golf, but the execution falls flat. It's a game that is expensive to play on every level, the olympics won't change that. My vote is no on Olympic golf...no matter the format.