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Just completed week 1 of Insanity. Similar to P90X, but without the weights and props. Feeling good and motivated to complete the full cycle. Absolutely certain it will help my game.

Great response, because you and I both know he'll be following. Great experiment, very interesting. Best of luck.

Thanks. Do you leave it there all the time, or just occasionally?

I'm one of those guys that uses his trunk primarily for golf storage year round. Clubs, shoes, rain gear, dirty socks... Just bought a Bushnell Tour V2. I know myself and I will want to just leave it in my bag in the trunk. Any opinions or personal experience? The instructions that came with it didn't warn about temps from what I could see.

He sounded pretty honest in the interview I saw. Said he kept falling back into his old patterns, which is something we can all relate to.

You can make an argument either way, and I guess that's the point of a debate. I personally don't consider it a sport, but that's because I've had this conversation a million times with buddies over all sorts of activities. I classify golf as an athletic competition. Same with track and field events. I only consider an activity a sport when the actions of your opponent directly affect your physical actions and the outcome of the game. Football, soccer, basketball, baseball, wrestling... all fall into this category.

Great post, thanks.

That is exactly what got me playing decent golf this year. For the past several years, I was so focused on where the club was throughout the swing. Instead, I now focus on my body and movements and really forget about the club. It seems to be working well.

Couple recent comments on course management. I like the idea of a beginner day, with instruction and discounted golf and items. Good proactive management. Also saw a comment I don't think was mentioned before, but again supports management as the driving force behind the length of a round. When a course shoves foursomes out on the back 9, when the course is already crowded. All the tricks in the world won't speed up your day when that occurs. How many times have you been cruising along on a round, only to get to the 10th hole and see a different group in front of you? The next 9 holes are usually twice as long as the first.

What you just described is a sh*tty course in my mind. Not enough staff, one guy working the pro shop? How about the starter and the rangers? And I completely disagree that people don't listen. It is proven in every organization and industry that people will adapt and follow guidance and rules when properly indoctrinated and educated. Do you think golf just became a gentleman's sport by chance? No, new golfers followed the precedence set by those they watched and played next to. I'm not saying the idea is terrible, I just think we look at it differently. You want to build a system that works with no influence from management, and I think management is the only way to accomplish the goal. You're using money to keep the course short and reward fast play (although it only works if everyone is looking for the bonus.) I don't want to come off like a rich *ss, because I'm not. And maybe it's geographic in nature. But saving $5 or even $10 on a round isn't going to make me shorten the course or speed up play. Courses I play (about 10 in the area) cost $65-100 per round. Add cost of drinks, food, tips for cart girl, tips for kid that wipes down my clubs, etc, etc, and it's a $120+ day pretty much every time. What does work is knowing a course is well managed and well staffed. I've witnessed it and it works. Pro shop welcomes you to the course and while checking you in, talks about pace of play and course rules. Starter then takes 5 minutes to reaffirm what ready golf is, makes recommendations on proper tee box, even shows you how to properly repair a divot and gives you a cheap little plastic tool if you don't have one. 1-2 rangers actively roaming the course, asking you to speed up if necessary. When a group of guys witness this, they think to themselves, "wow, nice course, they are focused on making this a nice day for us." And concerning gps, there is no fiddling. Other than pushing a button to order lunch at the turn, you don't touch the thing. It's active, gives you distances at real time, and again reminds you if you are ahead or behind. With all the discussions concerning gps and range finders, the one commonality is that they speed play by eliminating the pacing off of sprinkler heads. I'm sure you've played with a fore caddy before- talk about a fast round. Why? Someone is there always educating you about the hole, giving you distances, etc. Again, just difference in opinion. I will also gravitate towards a course that is well run, because I know my chances of having an enjoyable day is better.

Great story, thanks for sharing. Congrats to your son. Enjoy how the sport brings you together.

I voted no. I understand the idea, but the logic of charging more money to play a harder set-up fails somewhat in my mind. The bonus also seems flawed. I responded to other threads on this topic and my thoughts were quickly dismissed. But then others made the same type of comments and everyone thought it was a good idea. Makes me think I didn't relay my ideas clearly enough. The course management can affect pace of play and the enjoyment of the golfers more than anything else. Proactive management is needed. Educate the golfers before they play. Recommend tee boxes based on ability. Explain ready golf to everyone that plays. Install gps on carts and work hard towards no cart path rules. Make sure the gps has a round clock on it that reminds the group where they should be and if they are ahead or behind. And finally, have well trained rangers that are personable and can move groups along without coming off like an *ss.

You can feel annoyed, but that's common practice everywhere I play. Look at it this way- a golf course basically leases X number of time slots each day. They can sell four spots for each time slot, and fill them however they want to. You bought three of those spaces, and they have every right to sell the fourth. If you don't like playing with strangers, bring a foursome to the course every time. The only time I got annoyed with something like this was on a very busy day. My buddy and I were paired with another twosome. Right before teeing off, the starter approached us and said they were putting a fifth into our group. That was the last time I played that course.

I'm thinking half the posters on this thread are Iacas. Guessing it's an inside joke between few.

Let dad coach you.

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Hope you had a great father's day. I played as well, but the kids are a bit too young to join me just yet. I'm more interested in your most expensive round- I don't think I've played a course that cheap in 10 yrs. Around here, weekend rates at any course is $80-140. Enjoy it!

Did you ever say what he shot? Who knows what the story was. I would have questioned it as well. But my buddy, who shoots 80-85 almost every time we play, shot a 106 yesterday. It happens.

Fun format, I've played a few scrambles with these rules. It hurts when you team strings together a few holes and then ends up at the tips on a very long par 4.

I was there on Thursday, what a great experience. One comment on 18- good drive and it's a playable hole. Miss the fairway and it's next to impossible to hit the green on your next shot. I saw a ton of layups. And the flag was in the easiest location on Thursday. If they move it up and god forbid, tuck it back left, it's going to be a fun weekend.

I'm going to disagree with most and say you have a better chance than most. You play 3 times a week already? I know I don't have that type of time, and I think time is a big factor. So going forward, you have 3 days of 4-5 hrs you can dedicate towards your goal. That's a big plus in my mind. Now as others have said, you need to change what you do with that time. Find a good instructor, rework your entire swing, and spend half of that time practicing instead of hacking up the course. In one year you're going to know if you have a shot at your goal. As a side note, I honestly believe you can accomplish pretty much anything in 10 years with the proper amount of dedication and a plan.

It is a journey as they say. Twelve years ago, I played decent golf. Took many years off due to work, kids, and boating. Recently came back and my game was gone. Would show glimpses of the past, but never could put it together. Decided to basically start over, read through my old books and picked up the S&T; book. Trying to keep things simple, only focus on important principles. Huge swing change for me, but it's paying off. My driving is better than it has ever been. And my irons are getting better. Played a scramble last week and hit some amazing shots that left my partners thinking I actually knew what the hell I was doing. On three holes, we birdied using all of my shots, so I effectively birdied those three. It's been a long time since that's happened for me. It's probably all mental, but I suggest 'starting over' as I described. Pick a few basics and work on only that. Good luck, you'll be back in no time.

Very unremarkable swing... and I mean that as a huge compliment. I like how your pre-shot routine is short and simple. Swing looks effortless, no wasted movement. No big turns, no sharp angles. You remind me of a MLB all-star taking batting practice. Thanks for posting.

Not to dwell on this topic, but forgot to mention another way management can speed play- gps on carts. At my membership course, the carts have gps. This does several things. First, players know the lay out of each hole and distances just by quickly looking at the screen. When they come to their ball, they immediately know the distance and can select a club. Most importantly, there is a round clock that monitors your time on the course. It gives you reminders along the way, such as 'You should be approaching the 5th tee right now." It is based on a 4:20 round, and lets you know if you're on time, 2 minutes behind, 3 minutes ahead, etc.

Maybe it's a DC Metro thing, but you couldn't reasonably walk any of the courses I play. On some holes, the green and next tee are 300 yards from each other.