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Is This A Smart Move . . . 4 Wedges, 54,56,58,60 In Bag

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<< edit . . . i should have mentioned that my pitching wedge is 50* >>

Just decided to make a big change in my bag and approach to scoring. Took out my 3 wood and 3 iron and put in 4 wedges, 54,56,58,60 RAC TP Y-groove wedges.

No i'm not crazy . . . LOL . . . i know there is only 2* difference but, if one really wants to score it's all about distance control and 5 yards IS a big deal.

My theory i'm going to test out is that 2* difference is going to be much better than the 4* difference i used to use, for example: i'll be able to hit it 70yds, 65yds, 60yds and 55 yds.

I don't know how this will work but i'll tell you that in demoing the the TP wedges, best feeling wedges i've very hit, VERY consistent, so i feel confident that i'll be able to dial in exact yardage and stop the ball. (proV1)

See: Par 5's . . . I hit it consitently 260 off the tee, then 220 with a hybrid, that gives 480ish . . . wedge territory.

Any short par 4 brings the wedges into play
Any big drive brings them into play on regular par 4's.
Short par 3's
So maybe 9 holes per round would benefit from very precise wedge play. Hit half of those right and you're looking at maybe 3 birdies.
Plus greater up and down capacity both from bunkers and around the green chipping, maybe save a few shots.

So i say it could add up to lowering a score maybe 5 shots per round . . . in theory. What do you say?

2009 Burner R
FT-I Fusion Squareway 3W 15* Fujikura Speeder Fit-On R
5W R7 R
FT Fusion Hybrids Draw 3/21*, 4/24*
G5 5-PW X-forged Vintage: 52.12, 56.14MDScotty Cameron: Newport 2 ProV1

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What people decide on for bag makeup is a pretty personal thing, so if this works for you, great!

For me, 5 wedges (including your Pitching Wedge) would be overkill, I'd spend too much time determining which wedge to hit, and then I wouldn't ever be 100% confident I grabbed the right one. I actually had this problem when I was carrying 4 (P, 52, 56, 60) so I cut back to 3 (P, 53 bent to 54, and a 60). I've gotten to know these 3 wedges, and what they're capable of with full and shorter swings so I'm comfortable with any yardage 120 -> in. Some of that may be playing style as I lean more towards feel, if you're a more "mechanical" player, more wedges would probably be of value. For me, less wedges and adding a 3 wood I can hit off the tee & the deck to my bag as well as a 3 iron hyrid was a better move for me.

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Taylormade: Superquad 9.5 Aldila VS Proto 'By You' 70-S
Sonartec: SS-07 14.0 Aldila NV 85-S
Cleveland: Halo, 3i UST Irod 83-SPing: i-10 4-UW AWT-STitleist: Vokey Design Spin Milled 54.10 & 60.08Slighter: Handstamped Tacoma, 350G in Black Satin w/Sound Slot
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cmarkmyers Well Established Member

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Even with yardage markers and GPS I don't think I could tell with 100% certainty that a 58* would be the right club over a 56*. If I was going to carry a 5th wedge it would be a 64*.

Personally if I need to take 5 yards off of a wedge I just try to take a little off on the follow through and maybe play with ball position. Or you may want to practice what Pelz teaches - 3 different swings with 4 different wedges for 12 different shots.

But what works for you works for you. But why not add a gap wedge to that mix :)
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why wouldnt you tighten the gap between your pw
go 50 54 58 60 that would be a sick set up i would do it but i love my 4 wood and hybrid too much

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I would keep the 54 and 58. I really recommend a 52.
Introducing The Weapons:

Driver- | R5 TP, Aldila VS Proto Shaft
3Wood- | R7 3.15
2Hybrid- | TP Rescue Dual, Fujikura Banzai Shaft3U- | 3U RAC TP 19, Grafaloy Prologic shaft Irons- | R7 CGB MAXWedges- | TP 58,56,52Putter- | Rossa Imola TP 34Ball- | TP Red on Normal Cond, TP Black When...
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why wouldnt you tighten the gap between your pw

my pitching wedge is 50* so yes, i like your idea and may carry the PW, 54, 58, and 60 . . . the 56 is the one which is the experiment, to see if it really provides an added advantage, it may from the bunker as it has 12* bounce. As to the post about hitting it within 150 . . . yes, the idea is to tighten the distance variation from 150 on in. I believe most would agree that the wedge really is the scoring club, if you want to score you need to get your wedges close, so that's the idea behind this, try to get 5 yds closer.

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FT-I Fusion Squareway 3W 15* Fujikura Speeder Fit-On R
5W R7 R
FT Fusion Hybrids Draw 3/21*, 4/24*
G5 5-PW X-forged Vintage: 52.12, 56.14MDScotty Cameron: Newport 2 ProV1

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depends if you put the ball inside 150 yards every hole you will at least for me i hit my pitching wedge 155 my gap wedge 140 sand wedge 130 and lob wedge 100 so for me yes it is an advantage.

even pros don't hit their PW that far...what's your secret?

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golfer53 Newbie

golfer53

even pros don't hit their PW that far...what's your secret?

in fact alot of pros do... not all of them but quiet a few...one advantage i ahve is im young more flexible i can create a faster swing speed. 2 being in football in my highschool i lift weights everyday so i have strength too... so if you dont belive me i would under stand i mean this is coming from a highschool student and who believes teenagers these days but if you are going to believe politicians why not believe i can hit my pitching wedge 155...

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in fact alot of pros do... not all of them but quiet a few...one advantage i ahve is im young more flexible i can create a faster swing speed. 2 being in football in my highschool i lift weights everyday so i have strength too... so if you dont belive me i would under stand i mean this is coming from a highschool student and who believes teenagers these days but if you are going to believe politicians why not believe i can hit my pitching wedge 155...

What is your PW loft . . .?

They differ a lot, my Titleist 804 is 50* , the standard for sets is 48*, but some play more like 46*. If you put the ball back in your stance this will deloft the club some more, so you might be hitting like a 44* and with an aggressive swing it will go 155. It is true that the pros do hit wedges from 150, i mean some are hitting 7 irons 200+ in the right conditions.

2009 Burner R
FT-I Fusion Squareway 3W 15* Fujikura Speeder Fit-On R
5W R7 R
FT Fusion Hybrids Draw 3/21*, 4/24*
G5 5-PW X-forged Vintage: 52.12, 56.14MDScotty Cameron: Newport 2 ProV1

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in fact alot of pros do... not all of them but quiet a few...one advantage i ahve is im young more flexible i can create a faster swing speed. 2 being in football in my highschool i lift weights everyday so i have strength too... so if you dont belive me i would under stand i mean this is coming from a highschool student and who believes teenagers these days but if you are going to believe politicians why not believe i can hit my pitching wedge 155...

i never said i didn't believe you. but i'm young too (26). and i played football and lacrosse in school and i still lift weights. i hit a 48 degree PW 125-130 (the short irons in my set were bent 1 degree weak). if you play a game-improvement set, your PW is probably between 44-46, like phoenix said. that is effectively a 9 iron. you probably make an aggressive swing and you may even de-loft it at impact one way or another.

In my Bag:

Nike Sasquatch Tour 9.5*, Diamana BlueBoard 83S
Mizuno F-50 15*
Mizuno F-50 18*TaylorMade Rescue TP 21*Mizuno MP60 4-PWMizuno MP-R 54.10Cleveland CG10 60.08Mizuno Bettinardi C-01

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(the short irons in my set were bent 1 degree weak). if you play a game-improvement set, your PW is probably between 44-46, like phoenix said. that is effectively a 9 iron. you probably make an aggressive swing and you may even de-loft it at impact one way or another.

I hit a 48 degree pitching wedge also i have the 200 steel taylor made irons. im not sure if i deloft it or not i do get a lot of heighth under the ball though... well alot more than most people i play with... i dont hit straight bullets like some people but i really dont know if i deloft it or not...

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I hit a 48 degree pitching wedge also i have the 200 steel taylor made irons. im not sure if i deloft it or not i do get a lot of heighth under the ball though... well alot more than most people i play with... i dont hit straight bullets like some people but i really dont know if i deloft it or not...

what is the shaft flex . . . and do you hit a power draw . . . and is that all carry etc. draw will probably carry further than a fade or a straight shot

is your stance upright with the ball close or more flexed with the ball farther away. an upright stance usually will result in a higher ball flight but less yardage and the other stance may deliver less height but more yardage All these are factors, as well as the delofting possibility. Do you feel like you are trapping the ball a bit with the ball a bit back in your stance, that would deloft it.

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FT-I Fusion Squareway 3W 15* Fujikura Speeder Fit-On R
5W R7 R
FT Fusion Hybrids Draw 3/21*, 4/24*
G5 5-PW X-forged Vintage: 52.12, 56.14MDScotty Cameron: Newport 2 ProV1

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carry the 50 and 60 for sure
switch between the 54,56 depending on the bounce of the clubs, and the hardness of bunkers etc. and send me the 58*

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Irons: Cleveland TA2 3I-PW w/ DG R300
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as a kid growing up I had only one wedge....a 9 iron....
I used it for everythin from sand to 125yds....
it was my everything inside 100yd club..
and it was awsome....

now days I see guys with 3 or more wedges and
when do they have time to paractice all those shots...


for me it all goes in reverse
125-100.....9
100-80......pw
80-50.....sand
50-20. ....lob
20-10....pw
10-less...9
as I get closer I like the release and roll to pin...
its too hard to hole it out on the fly....lol
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NO

What is the loft of your pw? If its 46 then you have a HUGE gap. Buy one less wedge and fill out accordingly. My 9 iron is 42, PW is 46 degrees, I carry 3 wedges... 50, 54, 58.
See? nice 4 degree increments all along. If I'm in-between clubs I take a little off the longer wedge.

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