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I started this great game last year, ended up playing almost once a week.

My swing has got pretty consistent now and I am hoping to improve a lot this season and break the 100 barrier. I am looking to buy something good that can last me a few years. After a lot of research and trying out clubs at local golf store, I shortlisted Callaway Big Bertha and Ping G10 .

I also tried hitting a few shots with Callaway X-20 and felt really good and confident. I got really inclined towards these, until the person at golf store told me that these are probably not for someone who started playing last year. I could feel very little difference between these 3 in the store, but I understand that BigBertha and G10 far more forgiving than X-20.

Please advice what you think is more appropriate at this stage for me. Could X-20s less forgiveness hamper my game(to an extent that I get discouraged) or will it help me learn faster "the perfect shot" on the sweet spot.

If not X20, which one out of Big Bertha or G10 do you recommend?

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My cousin just bought the x20's and he swears by them. I tried the x20 tour and I thought those were equally if not better. I would tell you try taylormade because im a fan of their equipment, but out of those three, i would recommend the x20's. They got very high reviews from golfdigest.com and golf.com, and even from this forum...

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X-20 as your less likely to outgrow them. I love my X-18 and the X-20 are an improvement!

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out of all 3. X-20. Big Bertha I would never reccomend to anyone. Way to forgiving, you won't be able to improve as fast, and will outgrow them the minute you start breaking 100. Ping G10 are nice, but I don't care for the wide sole. If it works for you, then go for it. Callaway x-20 are going to last the longest, and are the most playable IMHO.

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out of all 3. X-20. Big Bertha I would never reccomend to anyone. Way to forgiving, you won't be able to improve as fast, and will outgrow them the minute you start breaking 100. Ping G10 are nice, but I don't care for the wide sole. If it works for you, then go for it. Callaway x-20 are going to last the longest, and are the most playable IMHO.

I just can't let this pass without comment- "way too forgiving, you won't be able to improve as fast, and will outgrow them the minute you start breaking 100". That comment is wrong on so different levels. Until you get the swing principles down where you can repeat them, get the most forgiving club out there. And that you ain't gonna outgrow them just because you now can break 100 or 90 for that matter.


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Callaway X-20 should be fine. I first started playing golf with Taylormade Rac LT and they were supposed to be player's iron back then.

I tried Callaway X-20s. Not my kind of club, but they would be really good for beginners and you could use them for the next 5 years or more. G10s are really good too out of the other choices you gave. Although Big Berthas are very forgiving, I don't think you would be satisfied with them the next year or two after you improve... Just my thoughts.
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does the heel on the x20 seem awkward at address to anyone else?

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I just can't let this pass without comment- "way too forgiving, you won't be able to improve as fast, and will outgrow them the minute you start breaking 100". That comment is wrong on so different levels. Until you get the swing principles down where you can repeat them, get the most forgiving club out there. And that you ain't gonna outgrow them just because you now can break 100 or 90 for that matter.

You won't develop the proper swing with a club like the big bertha. the 3, 4, and 5 irons especially. They practically encourage you to hit 2-3 inches behind it. They are a waste of money IMHO. Your game will go around in circles.

I'm not against forgiveness by any means, but you should at least use a club that gives you some feedback.

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X20 is a good club for mid-high handicappers....I liked it when I tested last year.
If this works for you when you tested, I would say just go for it and enjoy!
Very good review and feedback from bunch of people I know using it.

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You won't develop the proper swing with a club like the big bertha. the 3, 4, and 5 irons especially. They practically encourage you to hit 2-3 inches behind it. They are a waste of money IMHO. Your game will go around in circles.

Again.. hearing crap like this is why sooo many beginning players should not listen to everything they hear. It's just a plain wrong statement w/ not an ounce of validity

Posted
does the heel on the x20 seem awkward at address to anyone else?

That fat top-line sure does.

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Sounds like the guy at the store doesn't know what he is talking about. Being that you are new, getting something YOU feel confident with is half the battle. I'm a single digit handicap (9) and I have the x-20s. I used to be a 3 but I haven't played for 10 years. I got the 735 titleists last year, but I couldn't hit them consistenly. The x-20s are a huge improvement. I don't like to shape the ball anyway, so for me and a natural 'straight' ball flight, these are perfect and I can't see switching them even if I get back to a 3 or 4.

The are very forgiving, you will hit them longer then the other clubs you mentioned. Go buy them somewhere else and get fitted... having the proper shafts and lie angles are just as important as the club heads attached to them.

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Again.. hearing crap like this is why sooo many beginning players should not listen to everything they hear.

erm, no, my statement is very valid. The bertha's sole, especially in the i-brids, is so wide that It corrects any ass-backwards angle at which you attack the ball.

All I am saying is that you will improve at a much faster rate without Super-Game-Improvement Clubs.

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