Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 6483 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
Well I hit the range early this morning with the intent on working on my hips and also to try out my new Cleveland XLS 1I. Well I worked myself into a good groove, hitting the ball well. My warm up iron(7) was spot on with a little draw at 155 yards. Worked myself through the 6 and 5 and then pulled out the new hybrid. Thats where it hit the fan. Spraying the heck out of it, hooks, slices and worh burners...I probably hit 3 good balls out of 25 that rooled to the from of the 245 flag. I tried everything and couldnt make it work. I thought this club would fill the gap between my driver and 4 iron but now I just dont know! I am going to hit it a few more times before I start thinking about alternatives. Any ideas? The shaft is XS and cut one inch long like my irons. MY first plan may be to chop the inch off and play it stock...which is what the demo I hit was.

Thanks for letting me vent. Any ideas?

Posted
Jeff how are you setting up, and are you hitting the hybrid like an iron or a wood?

Posted
Man...I tried a little of everything. Moved it around in my stance, tried to hit a 3/4, tried to kill it...everything.

Posted
I know it took me almost all of last season to finally get the hang of the hybrid I got from my brother. He struggled hitting it so he gave it to me. I know that I hit mine just like an iron, and am finally getting good distance with it. Now I need to work on my accuracy. IMO they take some getting used to and practice. I am still not confident with mine. Good luck, and don't give up too quickly.
In the bag:
Driver: Tour SS 310 10.5*
Hybrid: 3i 845s Oversize Plus 18*
Irons: FP 4-SW
Wedges: TruTech 60* LW & 56* SWPutter: Deep Red Fluid Feel 7Balls: DT So/Lo (discontinued) or e6+ (trying these out!)

Posted
Two things I did last year that helped with my hybrids tremendously -- I switched to steel shafts (1/2" shorter than graphite for the same swingweight) and learned to hit them like a 5 iron.

Once I did that I started hitting them straight and long. Couldn't be happier now.

I think one thing that messes a lot of people up with hybrids is that they are generally longer than the long irons they'll replace and because of the head design and typical graphite shafts they encourage you to hit them with a sweeping swing like a fairway wood. This generally doesn't work too well with most hybrids. Just an observation, YMMV.

What's in my bag (most of the time)

Exotics 12°, Aldila VS Proto 65S
Exotics CB1 4W, 16.5°, Fujikura Stiff
3DX DC Ironwood 20°, 23°, 26º Hybrids, Proforce V2 Stiff Acer XP905 Pro 6-PW, Dynalite Gold S300Inazone CNC Spin Satin GW 50°/8°, SW 54°/14°, LW 58°/4°Boccieri...


Posted
Two things I did last year that helped with my hybrids tremendously -- I switched to steel shafts (1/2" shorter than graphite for the same swingweight) and learned to hit them like a 5 iron.

Sounds like I almost need to take a divot...well atleast a tiny one, similar to what I would with a 2 iron or so. I am headed to the range again in the morning, I will report in afterwards. Appreciate the help.


Posted
Sounds like I almost need to take a divot...well atleast a tiny one, similar to what I would with a 2 iron or so. I am headed to the range again in the morning, I will report in afterwards. Appreciate the help.

Correct. If you watch the pros when they hit hybrids that's exectly what they do -- take a small divot just as they would with their long irons.

What's in my bag (most of the time)

Exotics 12°, Aldila VS Proto 65S
Exotics CB1 4W, 16.5°, Fujikura Stiff
3DX DC Ironwood 20°, 23°, 26º Hybrids, Proforce V2 Stiff Acer XP905 Pro 6-PW, Dynalite Gold S300Inazone CNC Spin Satin GW 50°/8°, SW 54°/14°, LW 58°/4°Boccieri...


Posted
haha, I finally found out that with my hybrid, the problem was that i was trying to do too much. You have to understand that hybrids are not woods, and not irons, they're in between your wood and iron swing. To hit a hybrid you need to STOP trying to do things to hit it. Just take it back, and let the club fall back down, simply swing however feels comfortable.

Posted
take a break.... then go back and work on tempo - you probably hit your first few shots badly, got frustrated and started to try to too hard, lifting here, releasing early there, hitting shots thin and fat... were your ball marks all over the face or just in the middle?

Posted
What a crazy game this is. Hit the range this morning and hit about 30 more balls with it. Into a little wind I hit about 1/3 of them within a 20 yard diameter of the 210 flag...the rest were all over the place. I actually felt better hitting the club today. IT will take a little time but I think this club may find a place in the bag.

Posted
pathetic, if you cant hit a hybrid you have MUCH bigger swing problems. Hybrids are meant to be EXETREMEMLY easy to hit, stop thinking and just make a comfortable swing, if tahts not working, put down the club and go take some lessons.

Posted
pathetic, if you cant hit a hybrid you have MUCH bigger swing problems. Hybrids are meant to be EXETREMEMLY easy to hit, stop thinking and just make a comfortable swing, if tahts not working, put down the club and go take some lessons.

Excuse me?

on edit: Nevermind, I checked a few of your other posts and realized this is just a normal response from you. What IS pathetic is your holier than thou attitude and bs on here. Welcome to the #1 spot on my ignore list.

Posted
pathetic, if you cant hit a hybrid you have MUCH bigger swing problems. Hybrids are meant to be EXETREMEMLY easy to hit, stop thinking and just make a comfortable swing, if tahts not working, put down the club and go take some lessons.

Wow...I bet you are a real loser in life......

.....nothing worse than someone posting trying to be an ass.

Note: This thread is 6483 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 470 - 2026-01-13 Got some work in while some players were using the sim, so I had to stick around. 🙂 Good thing too, since… I hadn't yet practiced today until about 6:45 tonight. 😛 
    • That's not quite the same thing as what some people messaged me today.
    • Day 152 1-12 More reps bowing wrists in downswing. Still pausing at the top. Making sure to get to lead side and getting the ball to go left. Slow progress is better than no progress.  
    • Yea, if I were to make a post arguing against the heat map concept, citing some recent robot testing would be my first point. The heat map concept is what I find interesting, more on that below. The robot testing I have looked at, including the one you linked, do discreet point testing then provide that discrete data in various forms. Which as you said is old as the hills, if you know of any other heat map concept type testing, I would be interested in links to that though! No, and I did say in my first post "if this heat map data is valid and reliable" meaning I have my reservations as well. Heck beyond reservations. I have some fairly strong suspicions there are flaws. But all I have are hunches and guesses, if anyone has data to share, I would be interested to see it.  My background is I quit golfing about 9 years ago and have been toying with the idea of returning. So far that has been limited to a dozen range sessions in late Summer through Fall when the range closed. Then primarily hitting foam balls indoors using a swing speed monitor as feedback. Between the range closing and the snow flying I did buy an R10 and hit a few balls into a backyard net. The heat map concept is a graphical representation of efficiency (smash factor) loss mapped onto the face of the club. As I understand it to make the representation agnostic to swing speed or other golfer specific swing characteristics. It is more a graphical tool not a data tool. The areas are labeled numerically in discrete 1% increments while the raw data is changing at ~0.0017%/mm and these changes are represented as subtle changes in color across those discrete areas. The only data we care about in terms of the heat map is the 1.3 to 1.24 SF loss and where was the strike location on the face - 16mm heal and 5mm low. From the video the SF loss is 4.6% looking up 16mm heal and 5mm low on the heat map it is on the edge of where the map changes from 3% loss to 4%. For that data point in the video, 16mm heal, 5mm low, 71.3 mph swing speed (reference was 71.4 mph), the distance loss was 7.2% or 9 yards, 125 reference distance down to 116. However, distance loss is not part of a heat map discussion. Distance loss will be specific to the golfers swing characteristics not the club. What I was trying to convey was that I do not have enough information to determine good or bad. Are the two systems referencing strike location the same? How accurate are the two systems in measuring even if they are referencing from the same location? What variation might have been introduced by the club delivery on the shot I picked vs the reference set of shots? However, based on the data I do have and making some assumptions and guesses the results seem ok, within reason, a good place to start from and possibly refine. I do not see what is wrong with 70mph 7 iron, although that is one of my other areas of questioning. The title of the video has slow swing speed in all caps, and it seems like the videos I watch define 7i slow, medium, and fast as 70, 80, and 90. The whole question of mid iron swing speed and the implications for a players game and equipment choices is of interest to me as (according to my swing speed meter) over my ~decade break I lost 30mph swing speed on mine.
    • Maxfli, Maltby, Golfworks, all under the Dicks/Golf Galaxy umbrella... it's all a bit confounding. Looking at the pictures, they all look very, very similar in their design. I suspect they're the same club, manufactured in the same factory in China, just with different badging.  The whacky pricing structure has soured me, so I'll just cool my heels a bit. The new Mizuno's will be available to test very soon. I'm in no rush.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.