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I’m an 8 handicap at the moment and recently got fitted for the Wilson staff d9 forged irons.

Im 6ft 4” and the fitter had me in an inch longer than standard and also 1 degree upright in the lie angle. I’m confused with this as I thought if the club is longer it would need to be flatter as a result?

Any thoughts are welcome.


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With a standard length club you might need 3-5° upright. At an inch it knocks it down to 1°.

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4 minutes ago, iacas said:

With a standard length club you might need 3-5° upright. At an inch it knocks it down to 1°.

So do you mean it’s going to be 1 flat with it being a longer shaft so the 1 up will make it bang on?


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2 hours ago, Davie81 said:

So do you mean it’s going to be 1 flat with it being a longer shaft so the 1 up will make it bang on?

You're taking things in isolation:

  • If you lengthen a club by a foot, you'd have to make it super flat.
  • If you shorten a club by a foot, you'd have to make it super upright.

That's one thing.

  • If you're a foot taller than "standard," clubs will need to be bent upright.
  • If your'e a foot shorter than "standard," clubs will need to be bent flatter.

A standard length club built for a player that's about 5'9" or 5'10" or so plays at a certain lie angle. You're 6'4", so a standard club is going to play probably 5° too flat. So they added an inch, which brought the lie angle closer to neutralized… and still had to adjust it 1°.

If you were 6'2", maybe it'd be 0°. Or if they made it 1.25", maybe it's also be 0°.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

You're taking things in isolation:

  • If you lengthen a club by a foot, you'd have to make it super flat.
  • If you shorten a club by a foot, you'd have to make it super upright.

That's one thing.

  • If you're a foot taller than "standard," clubs will need to be bent upright.
  • If your'e a foot shorter than "standard," clubs will need to be bent flatter.

A standard length club built for a player that's about 5'9" or 5'10" or so plays at a certain lie angle. You're 6'4", so a standard club is going to play probably 5° too flat. So they added an inch, which brought the lie angle closer to neutralized… and still had to adjust it 1°.

If you were 6'2", maybe it'd be 0°. Or if they made it 1.25", maybe it's also be 0°.

That makes a bit more sense. Sorry if this is a dumb question but what’s the difference between lengthening a club and a standard length?


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25 minutes ago, Davie81 said:

That makes a bit more sense. Sorry if this is a dumb question but what’s the difference between lengthening a club and a standard length?

Not sure what you mean.

If a 7-iron is standard at 37", a 7-iron that's lengthened 1" will be 38".

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The Ping Color Code Fitting Chart would give you a general idea of anatomic measurements (wrist/floor, height) in relationship to club length and lie.  A fitter would tweak according to his interpretation of what your unique needs are.


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