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@iacas is a featured guest on the newest AMG video release talking about the top swing faults instructors see from using GEARS. The first one we caught on my first GEARS lesson. I still work on that.

Worth a watch.

 

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12:36ish: Having the right concept allows you to work towards the right movements.

I feel like this captures where I am at. I guess the struggle for me is finding, understanding, internalizing, "the right concept". What I mean is it pisses me off thinking about all the time and money I wasted on instructors who were teaching based on bad ball flight concepts/understanding. Seeing the data/high speed video for ball flight is what convinces me how in error they were.

While I think it is kind of cool to have lived through the birth and growth of competent data driven golf instruction, it is also kind of disheartening thinking about all the golfers killed or injured by incompetent instruction - which I feel is still an ongoing and concerning process.

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The first issue Erik spoke about is something we worked on for my swing during both GEARS sessions. GEARS was showing my pelvis center moving towards the ball during the back swing. I wasn’t the 4” guy though! This forced me to correct on the downswing to give myself space. My hip rotation was to high as well.

We corrected it by first getting the weight off my heels in my stance and getting my posture correct. Then the feel was shifting back into my right hip at a 45 degree angle. This kept my pelvis center from moving towards the ball at the start of the backswing. I also didn’t sway back as much as I felt I did because of the angle I was shifting. Feel Ain’t Real.

The cool thing about GEARS is as you work on something you can see the exact (Real) change happening. On video, it is much harder to spot this issue because of the 2D nature of filming. But I know what to look for now.

Sadly, I was hurt all last year and most of this year so I really haven’t been able to work on it much. I did do a lot of backswing work though.

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That was a good watch.

When I started working on pelvis in the backswing. I thought, this sounds contradictory to those leg straightening threads on the site. Erik has already done a correction.

Then the last lesson we went more down the route of feeling the right knee gains flex. It doesn’t, but the feeling keeps my knee position in a good range. Also, I just realized how much extra work my right hip needed to do to stabilize the body with the proper weight shift. Those glute and hip stabilizers got worked. 🤣

I wish this evolution in the golf instruction happened 20 years ago! 😭

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I need to drop a couple of stone. 🙂 😛 

10 hours ago, saevel25 said:

When I started working on pelvis in the backswing. I thought, this sounds contradictory to those leg straightening threads on the site. Erik has already done a correction.

 

Yep.

10 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Then the last lesson we went more down the route of feeling the right knee gains flex. It doesn’t, but the feeling keeps my knee position in a good range. Also, I just realized how much extra work my right hip needed to do to stabilize the body with the proper weight shift. Those glute and hip stabilizers got worked. 🤣

Yeah, but in the end, it feels more athletic, like you're actually using your legs, yeah?

10 hours ago, saevel25 said:

I wish this evolution in the golf instruction happened 20 years ago! 😭

As you know… we use the best available info we have. Like others, I was fooled a little by 2D images for awhile (moving or still). Unlike others, I've learned and grown and moved on since then, while they're still looking at their images (often from lousy camera angles).

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Yeah, but in the end, it feels more athletic, like you're actually using your legs, yeah?

Yep. I think it will start to feel even more athletic when we start on the downswing stuff later. 

9 minutes ago, iacas said:

As you know… we use the best available info we have. Like others, I was fooled a little by 2D images for awhile (moving or still). Unlike others, I've learned and grown and moved on since then, while they're still looking at their images (often from lousy camera angles).

I know, it's just I want to be younger so I have more time to enjoy the changes. 🙂 

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New Video with our own Erik Barzeski!

 

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Except for "you could lose 30 pounds," (you're right) I'm curious to hear what y'all think of the podcast.

Direct commentary is appreciated.

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I agree on the four types of golfers. Being #4, a good practice student, is obviously my goal. My question is really about practice vs play and how do we separate them. You went into it a bit in the episode. But bad shots affect me and I feel I revert when that starts to happen.

All three of you mentioned the “getting through the round” swing. Got that. But there was also talk of transition time when making swing changes. An example was sighted where a student was working on his swing path and it was working but he was pushing everything to the right. That indicated his path was better. I guess I would want coaching on that for when I play. Do I set up so I expect the push on every shot? I would have liked a little bit more discussion on that.

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