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So, finally had a day off and managed to get some guys together for a round of golf today. Four of us walking, a group of two in a cart in front of us.

Anyway, hole 5 is a par 3 that has about a 100 foot elevation drop to the green. The tee box for #6 is off to the left about 40 yards left of the green. Two of us hit our tee shots onto the green, the other two yanked them left. One under a shrub, the other off the path and about 15 yards to the right of the #6 tee. Didn't seem to be any problem, we yelled to get their attention just in case. After finishing up the hole I was the first to tee off on #6.

This is where the problem comes in. Number 6 is a 445 yard par 4 that has a ravine running across the fairway, 245 to the front of it, 325 to carry it. I can't even come close to getting over that so I decide to hit a hybrid which I typically hit about 225-230. The twosome in front of us was hitting balls from about 40 yards in front of the ravine, both guys hit. After that they get in their cart and drive towards the bridge. I figured it was safe and set up. I hit a dead straight hybrid shot in the middle of the fairway, but for some reason they drove back to the fairway as I was hitting. Noticed they were near the path of my ball and we began yelling "fore" at them. Guy picks up my ball and chucks it into the ravine, then him and one of the guys I was with get into a huge yelling match about the whole thing.

The guy from the group in front was yelling that it was the second time we hit into them on purpose, guy in my group is yelling back that it was an accident since they drove over to the bridge across before coming back into the fairway and that it was a dick move to throw my ball into the ravine. We caught up to them a few holes later and everything seemed fine, general handshake, comments about how being out golfing in 70 degree sunny weather was better than working.

I know I ended up hitting towards them, but I watched them hit two shots each to get to the point where they were 40 yards from the ravine, so they hit their third shot and then drove over to the bridge. I set up, made one last check and saw them at the front of the bridge (it's about 30 yards to the right of the end of the fairway), looked back down and hit. I felt bad when I saw the ball heading towards them, but I never figured out why they drove to the bridge only to come back. How much of the blame for the whole thing is on me in this situation?

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Don't think I would be dwelling on this situation much since it seems like both sides have their opinion on the matter. I think it is likely that while you were setting up they decided to come back and to them it seemed like you hit into them on purpose even though to you it seemed like they were gone. Maybe if you looked up before you swung you would have seen they were back in your shot. Oh well I would say split the blame...and dont sweat it. my .02

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You stated.... "I felt bad when I saw the ball heading towards them, but I never figured out why they drove to the bridge only to come back.....

The answer is.........What can two lawyers do when things are slow at the office and they need a case to make a few bucks.........

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Seems to not be a huge deal as long as you guys kissed and made up in the end (which is what appears to have happened).

  Garthmo said:
...Maybe if you looked up before you swung you would have seen they were back in your shot...

Question - Is it bad etiquette to not take one last peek when you've set your club on the ground and are ready to take a swing? The reason I ask is because I've come close to hitting people I've been paired with a few times (maybe like 3 or 4) and actually hit my friend Matt once because I chose my line, then set up to the ball all the while looking at the ball and not looking up until the ball is in the air (luckily I skulled my ball right into Matt's calf and not his head). He just happened to walk in my line once I stopped looking at the target (ditto for the times I almost nailed people I've been paired with).

They look at me angrily but I simply say 'I'm looking at the ball, not the target so for your own safety, please don't walk in my line even though we're playing ready golf.' Thoughts?

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  Garthmo said:
Don't think I would be dwelling on this situation much since it seems like both sides have their opinion on the matter. I think it is likely that while you were setting up they decided to come back and to them it seemed like you hit into them on purpose even though to you it seemed like they were gone. Maybe if you looked up before you swung you would have seen they were back in your shot. Oh well I would say split the blame...and dont sweat it. my .02

I said in the first post actually that I was watching them from the box, saw them start to drive away, set up to my shot, and when I took a last look I saw them at the front of the bridge to go across it. Looked back down and hit my shot. I did take a last look, and they were a good clearance and out of range at the time. It's about 250 with some tree coverage near the bridge, no way I would have been able to hit them with my hybrid from where they were. The green was clear in front of them and they had already hit across so there was really no reason for them to come back. That's the part that confuses me, they had already hit across the ravine and were heading to the bridge for their next shot when they turned around. When I made a last check they were at the bridge.

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  Masa said:
This is where the problem comes in. Number 6 is a 445 yard par 4 that has a ravine running across the fairway, 245 to the front of it, 325 to carry it. I can't even come close to getting over that so I decide to hit a hybrid which I typically hit about 225-230. The twosome in front of us was hitting balls from about 40 yards in front of the ravine, both guys hit. After that they get in their cart and drive towards the bridge. I figured it was safe and set up. I hit a dead straight hybrid shot in the middle of the fairway, but for some reason they drove back to the fairway as I was hitting. Noticed they were near the path of my ball and we began yelling "fore" at them. Guy picks up my ball and chucks it into the ravine, then him and one of the guys I was with get into a huge yelling match about the whole thing.

The way I see it, he owes you a ball. Moving deliberately out of the landing area and then back is asking for it.
  pjsnyc said:
Question - Is it bad etiquette to not take one last peek when you've set your club on the ground and are ready to take a swing? The reason I ask is because I've come close to hitting people I've been paired with a few times (maybe like 3 or 4) and actually hit my friend Matt once because I chose my line, then set up to the ball all the while looking at the ball and not looking up until the ball is in the air (luckily I skulled my ball right into Matt's calf and not his head). He just happened to walk in my line once I stopped looking at the target (ditto for the times I almost nailed people I've been paired with).

Walking in your line when you have a club in your hand is asking for it too. Seriously, there are places it's OK to stand on the course and times and places that aren't OK.

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