Par in a tournament

[Shindig]

I did a search for par tournament and par wasn't included in the results, making it quite tough for me to figure out if this has been discussed. I spoke to a few people about it yesterday at Torrey Pines, and I've been wondering about it for a while.

For some tournaments, there's a question about whether to play some hole as a par-4 or a par-5 on the scorecard. Obviously, which one it is matters for the +X/-X on the TV and leaderboard, but is it otherwise relevant for any reason? You could call every hole a par-6 or a par-2 and that wouldn't change the fact that the lowest stroke count wins the tournament.

[iacas]

For some tournaments, there's a question about whether to play some hole as a par-4 or a par-5 on the scorecard.

I've never seen such a tournament. Not on a local level, and obviously never on the PGA Tour.

[Shindig]

I've never seen such a tournament. Not on a local level, and obviously never on the PGA Tour.

I don't mean that they're debating it during the tournament, but there's the (I believe it's the) 6th hole at Torrey Pines that is a par-5 during the Buick and casual play, but is a par-4 for the U.S. Open. They moved the tees up to about the border of par-4 and par-5, and called it a par-4. That's what I mean by decisions on what par a hole should be. IIRC, they were also debating one of the other par-5s and whether to make it a par-4.

[iacas]

I don't mean that they're debating it during the tournament, but there's the (I believe it's the) 6th hole at Torrey Pines that is a par-5 during the Buick and casual play, but is a par-4 for the U.S. Open. They moved the tees up to about the border of par-4 and par-5, and called it a par-4. That's what I mean by decisions on what par a hole should be. IIRC, they were also debating one of the other par-5s and whether to make it a par-4.

Then yes, it mostly matters for the +/- scorekeeping. It also matters as far as the mentality of the players, as we discussed in another thread.

[Shindig]

Then yes, it mostly matters for the +/- scorekeeping. It also matters as far as the mentality of the players, as we discussed in another thread.

My fault for missing it then. I'll go look for it. I'm guessing one of the recent U.S. Open threads, or was this farther back?

Thanks for the heads-up.

[iacas]

My fault for missing it then. I'll go look for it. I'm guessing one of the recent U.S. Open threads, or was this farther back?

Yeah. The thread was (mis)titled "stupid U.S. Open Stats" or something.

[Shindig]

Yeah. The thread was (mis)titled "stupid U.S. Open Stats" or something.

Wow, that was mis-titled... and had exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.

If you get a chance and could close this thread so that conversation isn't just repeated here, I'd appreciate it. Thanks