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I work in Exton. Ever play Downingtown CC? Not bad, a little pricey.

Nothing in the swing is done at the expense of balance.


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I work in Exton. Ever play Downingtown CC? Not bad, a little pricey.

Not yet... Everything around here is a little pricey! I've heard good things about it though.

I thought Paxon Hollow was going to be a good deal, but it turns out they don't include the cart fee in the greens fee, but force you to get the cart. If you have two people, they force you to pay two cart fees - but you still only get one cart. The total cost is the same as everyplace else though. I'm playing Broad Run again on Friday. I like the course (though I'm nervous hitting near the houses...). I'd join if it wasn't on the wrong side of town - there's no good way to get there. Edgmont is 10 minutes away if I get stopped at all of the lights. Penn Oaks and Concord are about 15 minutes. I'll travel further for an occasional round (like to meet up with the folks here) but if I'm joining a club it's gotta be really convenient so I can use and abuse it! Where do you normally play?

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The only place I normally play is in my league at Kimberton Golf Club. The rest is a smattering of whatever's convenient at the time. I actually don't play much, really. Outside of my league, it's been like once a month so far this year. I'm hoping to pick up steam this summer. Broad Run after 3pm during the week is a very attractive after-work option.

Nothing in the swing is done at the expense of balance.


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OK, since I brought it up, I'll start planning.

How about something the weekend of July 19/20? If we get a foursome or better, I'll find someplace nice to play.

Also, due to an odd work schedule, I have most Tuesdays off. If anyone is ever interested in golfing on a Tuesday, send me a message.

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New Member here from DE. I might be able to join next weekend depending on the location and you can handle a high90/low 100

I noticed this thread started with someone looking for course near philly but some of the suggestions really stretched far from Philly (i.e. Wyncote). If so there are some decent courses in No Delaware. If anyone is down this way on a weekend give me a shout.

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Posted
The 20th is actually pretty good for me. Something later in the day, though, if possible.

Nothing in the swing is done at the expense of balance.


Posted
definitely depending on the location

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Posted
looks interesting, I could do that, I think. Little pricey, though......

Nothing in the swing is done at the expense of balance.


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I am there dude

I was just starting to play when they shut it down for the renovation and have not been there since it opened in May.

I heard it is pretty good.

Rates drop at 1pm and tee times can be made 8 days in advance. So if we want to do this we should get the tee time this saturday because i bet those 1-2pm might fill up quickly.

Let me know

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4LM 12 Degree

AP1 5-G Rosa putter


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We'll hold off for now - we ended up joining Edgmont so we'll be there for a few weeks to work on our game. Looking at your handicaps, we have a lot of work to do :)

If a couple of you want to meet up with us some time at Edgmont, let me know. Otherwise, we'll see you at the next outing.

Posted
Is Edgemont a private course/club?

I would not worry much about the handicap difference

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4LM 12 Degree

AP1 5-G Rosa putter


Posted
Is Edgemont a private course/club?

It's private, but they have a pretty liberal visitor policies. If you're with a member, you just pay the greens and cart fees. They have a loose policy regarding how many times a visitor can come out, but they don't actually keep count.

They've made a good deal of improvements to the course in the past few years, too. Let me know if you want to come out for a round. I can say I'm not worried about the handicap difference, but I don't want to embarass myself too much

Posted
MC

thanks for the info. That sounds great maybe we can set something up after the Rock Manor event.

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AP1 5-G Rosa putter


Posted
Absolutely, just let me know. We're trying to play every Friday and Sunday (gotta get our money's worth!). The really serious guys play in the mornings on the weekend, but its seems really relaxed after they are done.

On weekends, we are relegated to afternoons because of club policy regarding women. I think it's a common thing among clubs but my wife is a late riser so it doesn't bother us. It still strikes me as odd...

We're still in the 'hit another from a bad tee shot' stage and my wife will use the 'unplayable lie' rule more liberally than I do (she's cute so she can get away with it). If this kind of thing doesn't bother you, feel free to join us. If it does bother you, you're still free to join us, just be ready to be bothered on a couple holes :-p. It's all in good fun, and that's why we play isn't it?

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That sounds great maybe we can set something up after the Rock Manor event.

Oh, ok, so now it's an "event"?! Cool, first ever Sandtrap Open, MidAtlantic qualifier...

Sunday, 1pm or so, Manor Rock in Wilmington, DE ($50 green fee). So far, it looks like: LilGasPasser SonicBlue jwkde I can make a tee time over the weekend, if I get some feedback. I'll post official time once we get it. Anyone else to fill out the foursome? ripsid? Sam004? If this goes over well, I say we all crash MonkeyClaw's posh new club for round 2...

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