Educate me on re-shafting clubs (hybrid)

[CosmosMpower]

I put a few of my hybrids for sale as I just can't hit them up in the air consistently. The Nickent 4DX 23 degree has the stock SR3 shaft in stiff flex and the Adams A3 Boxer 19 degree has the Prolaunch red. The Prolaunch doesn't specify a flex. I normally use regular flex in everything and I think that one shaft is too stiff for my swing and the other is known to be low launch (Prolaunch red).

Instead of starting all over I thought about trying to re-shaft both hybrids with something in regular flex that's easier to hit and help me get the ball in the air. Can you reccomend me a good but reasonable priced hybrid shaft, maybe something with high launch? Where can I buy individual shafts that fit my spec without spending the same amount of money as buying a whole new club? What's the usual labor cost at a big box retailer like golf galaxy or PGAtoursuperstore to get the work done?

My swing speed is between 88 and 91 mph for driver and I shoot low to high 90's (a bit inconsistent). I'm just looking for my hybrids to go fairly straight from 180-220 yards between the 2 since I hit my 5 iron to about 170-180. I play from the whites so I rarely need to hit anything off the deck 250+.

Also keep in mind I know nothing about reshafting clubs, so I don't really understand what tip diameter, tip prep etc really means but would love to learn.


Thanks in advance.

[907golfer12]

I know that the UST Proforce V2 makes a high launch hybrid model, and is fairly reasonable.

[Cody]

I love the trajectory of my nickent hybrid and i also have a regular. If possible call up nickent and see if you can get a swap becuase the SR3 seems to be an amazing shaft. If not, the proforce UST V2 is an amazing hybrid shaft.

[Redbird]

you can probably find a good hybrid shaft for 15-25 dollars a shaft...


im thinking of reshafting my nike sumo driver too

[CosmosMpower]

you can probably find a good hybrid shaft for 15-25 dollars a shaft...

That sounds like a deal, where can I find one? Also is that new or a pull? If it's a pull what do I need to look for to make sure it's not junk and can be installed sucessfully?

I guess labor is 10-15 bucks to have a shaft pulled and swapped? I have a Proforce V2 R flex in my Nickent driver and it seems quite a bit stiffer than any other R flex shaft I've hit before. Is the high launch a little softer?

[CosmosMpower]

I love the trajectory of my nickent hybrid and i also have a regular. If possible call up nickent and see if you can get a swap becuase the SR3 seems to be an amazing shaft. If not, the proforce UST V2 is an amazing hybrid shaft.

I had a stiff SR3 in my 4DX draw and I wasn't that impressed with the feel, I really don't like the stiff flex SR3 in the hybrid, it feels like a board with my low swing speed.

[CosmosMpower]

Went to PGA superstore and they quoted me $15 per club for labor. They want 60 for a Proforce V2 high launch hybrid shaft. I'm looking to spend more like 20-25 per shaft and don't care if it's a good pull, is there a good place to buy a good high launch hybrid shaft for a good price?

[Cody]

I had a stiff SR3 in my 4DX draw and I wasn't that impressed with the feel, I really don't like the stiff flex SR3 in the hybrid, it feels like a board with my low swing speed.

I also have a stiff in my 4dx draw and I HATE IT. However the regular in my 4DX hybrids is amazing.

The stiff in the draw is starting to grow on me. The regulars in the hybrids might be coming to bite me in the ass as my swing speed is increasing.

[LottaBalata]

I just did a search on Ebay, "golf shaft hybrid". There are quite a few nice, nice choices there. Some are truly inexpensive, some nicer quality choice go for 25 to 30.

You should try and demo a club/s with a reg. flex shaft in the same loft and see what you like and hit well. Then try and find something similar.

[fusioncal]

The reason for re-shafting is because you think it's too stiff and want softer flex? No offense here, but if you hit hybrid right, it'll launch the ball in the air easily regardless to the shaft. That's why hybrid is so easy to use. Now you mentioned that you can't get the ball in the air consistently . I would think it's more to the swing instead of the shaft .

Well, it's another case if you complained the ball trajectory is too low. Yes, the ProLaunch Red launches the ball low and I think it is unsuitable for you in addition to your swing speed.

So, if you're serious about it I'd strongly suggest you to get fitted. This will eliminate wild guesses and give the best feeling and also reliable club for you to use on the course. It's gonna cost you more, but IMHO it's gonna be one-time work only instead of trial and error finding cheaper and suitable shafts.

Hope that helps.

PS: Your could also learn from the clubmaker about tip diameter, tip prep, all those stuff when you get fitted. Talking about real time experience.

[CosmosMpower]

The reason for re-shafting is because you think it's too stiff and want softer flex? No offense here, but if you hit hybrid right, it'll launch the ball in the air easily regardless to the shaft. That's why hybrid is so easy to use. Now you mentioned that you can't get the ball in the air

I misspoke, I can hit the ball square and get it up in the air but it's a lower launch angle than I like for a hybrid. I prefer something with a higher launch and softer landing and I find that I'm hitting too many low burners with the Prolaunch red stiff and SR3 stiff. Both shafts feel dead and boardy and I don't feel like I can load them at all with my lower swing speed but I think the heads are good so I'm just looking to replace the shafts.

There's a reputable club fitter around the corner, I may pay them a visit. In the meantime I'm just looking for suggestions on a good high launch hybrid shaft that I can throw in both these clubs. I'm hoping you guys can point me to a good source and help me figure out what tip/characteristics etc I need such as (torque, kickpoint etc). In my search I didn't see many reasonably priced hybrid shafts, most seem to be pulled from fairway woods so I'm not sure if they would work or would be the correct weight/length etc.

[fusioncal]

There's a reputable club fitter around the corner, I may pay them a visit. In the meantime I'm just looking for suggestions on a good high launch hybrid shaft that I can throw in both these clubs. I'm hoping you guys can point me to a good source and help me figure out what tip/characteristics etc I need such as (torque, kickpoint etc). In my search I didn't see many reasonably priced hybrid shafts, most seem to be pulled from fairway woods so I'm not sure if they would work or would be the correct weight/length etc.

Well, there are some good hybrid shafts, such as Aldila, UST, GD, etc and won't cost too much new. Here's the data I found:

V2 High Launch Hybrid : R, 84g, 3.6 torque, high Aldila VS Proto Hybrid 80: R, 84g, 2.0 torque, low-mid Aldila NVS Hybrid 85: R, 84g, 2.8 torque, mid GD YS-Hybrid+: R, 85g, 2.6 torque, mid I think the NVS and YS should fit you. V2 high launch, well could be too high perhaps? Hope this helps.

[CosmosMpower]

Well, there are some good hybrid shafts, such as Aldila, UST, GD, etc and won't cost too much new. Here's the data I found:

Thanks that was very helpful. How do the torque numbers correlate to the ball flight? Lower torque=higher flight? I have the prolaunch blue in my 5 wood and a Aldila NV in my 3 wood (Walmart RPM 17$ special).

I may just go grab a few more of those and pulls the shafts, would those work in a hybrid? I know they're a little lighter (75 gram 3.2 torque) and maybe a bit longer but they can always trim it right? Also the tip diamter in the Adams is .370 can I use a .335 shaft since it's smaller?

[DJYoshi]

chris, if you're re-shafting, you should go with what fits you. if you're having a hard time getting the ball in the air, it could be your swing. if it's not your swing, then look into a shaft with a low kickpoint. that should help you get the ball up quick.
i'll be in dallas 10.9 - 10.12. looking to get out to play on saturday morning. if you can meet up, i have the 1st hybrid that i bought..it's a lynx that helps you get the ball up in the air. i'll just give it to you

[CosmosMpower]

chris, if you're re-shafting, you should go with what fits you. if you're having a hard time getting the ball in the air, it could be your swing. if it's not your swing, then look into a shaft with a low kickpoint. that should help you get the ball up quick.

I'm not Chris but I usually play on Saturdays and you're welcome to join me and a few buddies if you're in town. I'm not having a problem getting the ball in the air but the launch trajectory is too low for my taste. Sometimes when I'm 180 yards out I get it to and over the green instead of the high soft landing I want.

I've narrowed it down to 3 shafts, the Proalaunch Blue, Banazi, V2 high launch hybrid.

[fusioncal]

Thanks that was very helpful. How do the torque numbers correlate to the ball flight? Lower torque=higher flight? I have the prolaunch blue in my 5 wood and a Aldila NV in my 3 wood (Walmart RPM 17$ special).

From what I know, lower torque isn't necessarily lower flight. Torque in the shaft is a measure how much degree the shaft will bend. Fast swingers will definitely bend the shaft more creating that whippy feeling if too much. That's why they require lower torque shafts to match their swing.

It's a bit trickier when it comes to ball flight. A lot of factors could be the cause (club head model, loft, shaft, ball, etc). Though, IMO mainly it is how you swing. I don't have tremendous knowledge in clubmaking and I believe someone with far better experience than I can answer if it would be proper to put wood's shaft into hybrid. Logically, there must be a reason why wood and hybrid shaft is labeled differently. Trimming a shaft, I believe, will only stiffen it more and not to mention change in the swingweight. In regard to tip diameter you could have it shimmed to fit. Hope that helps.

[CosmosMpower]

From what I know, lower torque isn't necessarily lower flight. Torque in the shaft is a measure how much degree the shaft will bend. Fast swingers will definitely bend the shaft more creating that whippy feeling if too much. That's why they require lower torque shafts to match their swing.

Thanks, I did some research and by the time I pay labor to have 2 shafts pulled and re-installed from the 17$ fairway wood it would be almost the same to just buy 2 new .370 tip hybrid specific shafts so I'm going to do that.