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To ProV1's. It gives the most versatility of shots. I spun a full 5-wood backwards today, then purposely let a 9-iron release 20 feet. And I'm sure I could do anything in between. They are seriously long, as well.I wil only buy the X-OUTS since they are 15$ off.
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Nike Sumo2 19°Nike Forged Irons - 3-PW Titleist Bob Vokey Spin Milled 56°10°Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 2

Posted
How do you spin a 5W backwards?
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Driver: Sasquatch SUMO² 9.5º Stiff
Hybrid: HiBore 16º (3W replacement)
Irons: Staff Ci6 3-PW StiffWedges: Vokey Spin Milled 54.10 60.04Putter: Newport Studio Style 35"Ball: Pro V1xAge: 15

Posted

We had about 9 inches of rain earlier in the week, so the greens were responding a bit.
And I hit it pretty high, not a pop up, it was solid, but nice and high.

And it wasn't rip it back 20 feet. It was only 3-4 feet of backspin.

Should have included that in the original message

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Posted
To ProV1's. It gives the most versatility of shots. I spun a full 5-wood backwards today, then purposely let a 9-iron release 20 feet. And I'm sure I could do anything in between. They are seriously long, as well.I wil only buy the X-OUTS since they are 15$ off.

Glad you found a ball that works for you. I disagree a little bit with the versatility. I think the Pro V1x and the Taylor Made Black are far more versatile to me, but it is a preference. And that 5wood, is flat out amazing. I have never in my 20 years of golfing, seen someone pull a "full 5 wood" back any feet never mind 3-4 feet. I haev seen them land dead, but that is serious spin to get with a club with such little loft.

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forget the fact that you pulled a 5 wood back, im more impressed at the accuracy from 200+ yards out, not to mention the eagle eyesight to see something spin back 3 feet from 660 feet out.

Miraculous.

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Burner Rescue 19* ReAx Superfast S
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Posted
To ProV1's. It gives the most versatility of shots. I spun a full 5-wood backwards today, then purposely let a 9-iron release 20 feet. And I'm sure I could do anything in between. They are seriously long, as well..

Longer than what?

Does anyone really think that amongst quality golf balls there is a distance advantage? I have used them all and I seriously think that they're all the same. Spin is something else, and the ability to spin the ball back for a lot of players simply means that they're going to face a longer first putt because they're usually short anyway. I think you might be giving a little too much cerdit to the ball. Re 5 wood backspin. Must have been a serious headwind.

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The closest thing I have come to that is a 3i. It wasn't even really a pull back. It hit the green and jump sidways and came maybe an inche and a half back and about 6 inches to the right (of course away from the pin). Complete accident as well, couldn't do it again if I tried.

Driver:  Speedline 9.5° w/ Grafalloy Prolaunch AXIS Red Shaft
Fairway:  '07 Burner Fairways
Irons:  Apex Edge 3-W

Wedge:  52° & 58° /  60° 588 Satin

Putter:  Anser 4


Posted
Longer than what?

I never said it was "longer", just "long". Please actually read what I said. That also means my second post, I said the greens were very receptive, so spin on clubs was pretty exagerated from the normal super firm conditions we have. I play the ball because I want to stop all my irons where they hit, a few feet of roll either direction is fine for me. I dont play them because I can rip them back.
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Nike Sumo2 15°
Nike Sumo2 19°Nike Forged Irons - 3-PW Titleist Bob Vokey Spin Milled 56°10°Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 2

Posted
Pulling back a 5 wood no matter what the conditions with a full swing is amazing. Like I said in my 20 years of golfing I have never seen a 5 wood spin back. We have seen them stop dead, but not spin back ever. Great job.

Posted
This is why the ProV1 is the #1 golf ball. :p

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Posted
I haven't even seen a PGA Tour pro spin back a 5 wood.
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Driver: Sasquatch 460 9.5°
3 Wood: Laser 3 Wood 15°
5 Wood: r7 19° (Stiff)Irons: S58 Irons 4-PW Orange DotWedge: Harmonized 60°Wedge: Z TP 54°Putter: Tiffany 34"Balls: Pro V1 Shoes: Adidas Tour 360 IIThe Meadows Golf Coursewww.themeadowsgc.comAge: 16

Posted
I haven't even seen a PGA Tour pro spin back a 5 wood.

Ive seen a number of them spin 3 woods backwards. Tiger a few times, and some other lone few. I'll look for the video, but im not sure I can find it.

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Nike Sumo2 15°
Nike Sumo2 19°Nike Forged Irons - 3-PW Titleist Bob Vokey Spin Milled 56°10°Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 2

Posted
Its the shot you lok at, and its really funny, I would never say I could ever do it again, but it was a a good laugh to watch
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Nike Sumo2 15°
Nike Sumo2 19°Nike Forged Irons - 3-PW Titleist Bob Vokey Spin Milled 56°10°Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport 2

Posted
Like I said, I would love to see it. I have never seen it in 20 years of playing 2-3 times a week and watching golf all the time on TV.

Posted
Getting a 5-wood to spin back would be amazing. The lowest club I could get to spin back would be a 7-iron. I do love Pro V1's and V1x's though.

Driver Tour Burner 9.5*
3 Wood Burner High Launch 14.5*
Hyrbid Burner Tour Launch 20*
Irons: R7 4-PW
Wedges: CG12 50* 56* Vokey Spin Milled 60*Putter: Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2Backup: 2-ball XG Center ShaftBall: Pro V1xAge: 16


Posted
I think I am with you BUT my switch will be to the PROV1X. I started this year with TP Reds, tried Noodle+, tried TP Blacks, Srixon and most recently shot a 5 over with a B330-S....but I have been using the PROV1X's lately and can't say I have hit anything this straight and this far. Nice feel too and checking. Great to putt with too.

I have callaway tour i and tour ix on the list but I really think the prov1x is my new ball. I just wonder what Ill do with all these tp reds, noodle+ and bridgestones! haha.
G5,9
F-50,13.5
MP33(2-9)
200,48.06
SM,54.11MP-T,60.05Anser 2

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