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Rugger Well Established Member

Rugger

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I saw these in the store today and was intrigued. They use some sort of double dimple, meaning a very small dimple within the normal dimples.

Is there anything to this or just marketing?

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I saw these in the store today and was intrigued. They use some sort of double dimple, meaning a very small dimple within the normal dimples.

Top Flite makes the Gamer, Freak, D2 Feel, Distance, and Straight with double dimples. I think the idea behind the double dimples is to improve ball flight, making it higher with less spin on the driver, but I am not 100% positive of this so correct me if I am wrong.

Here's what I play:

Titleist 907 D2 10.5* UST ProForce V2 76-S | Titleist 906F4 18.5* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist 585H 21* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist ZB 4-PW TTDG S300 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 54.10 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.08 | Scotty Cameron Red X5 33" |


Rugger Well Established Member

Rugger

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Top Flite makes the Gamer, Freak, D2 Feel, Distance, and Straight with double dimples. I think the idea behind the double dimples is to improve ball flight, making it higher with less spin on the driver, but I am not 100% positive of this so correct me if I am wrong.

Yeah I did gather that's what they were after from the wording on the box. Question is, though, does it work?

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MP630 3 Wood
MP630 CLK Hybrid 17*
MP-32 3-pw Rifle Project X 6.0
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Dub Great Member

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Of the newer Top Flite balls, I've only tried the GAMER.....2 months ago.

I noticed the unusual dimple pattern.

I didn't notice any different flight trajectory over some of the older XL's that I was also playing at the time.

I was very impressed with the ball, however.

Held the greens nicely and was sweet off the putter. I'll buy them again.
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joshtpa Great Member

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I tried them. They seemed the same as the normal balls to me. The freak does fly pretty straight off of the tee. Have no idea if it is because of the dimples.

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I tried them. They seemed the same as the normal balls to me. The freak does fly pretty straight off of the tee. Have no idea if it is because of the dimples.

Based on your hcp, your straight shot must have been all you (except for the truck hook in your previous post).

I heard that this ball has no feel - true?

Rugger Well Established Member

Rugger

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We'll find out today. A friend of mine who works at a proshop brought me a sleeve. I'll give em a shot today. Hard to tell how they react though because my swing is inconsistent.

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joshtpa Great Member

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Based on your hcp, your straight shot must have been all you (except for the truck hook in your previous post).

It just would not hold at all. It reminded me of a lot of the 2 piece distance balls.


tonyy Dedicated Member

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I bought a pack a couple weeks ago and have been pretty happy with them. I get pretty good yardage off the tee and they hold well on the greens. The only thing I noticed about them is the soft cover. They get scratched up pretty easily.

About the feel, I would compare them to the NXT. They're not as soft as a Pro V1 but they're not rocks either. Overall I enjoyed them and plan to buy them since I can't dish out $45 a dozen for Pro V1's all the time. Plus $20/dozen is a great price for 3 piece ball. Can't beat that.

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joshtpa Great Member

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I bought a pack a couple weeks ago and have been pretty happy with them. I get pretty good yardage off the tee and they hold well on the greens. The only thing I noticed about them is the soft cover. They get scratched up pretty easily.

I would not put them in the NXT category at all. Much harder cover. I cant believe you were able to scratch these up. With my VOkey wedges that normally tear up everything. They did nothing to these.

M2daRizzle Well Established Member

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I would not put them in the NXT category at all. Much harder cover. I cant believe you were able to scratch these up. With my VOkey wedges that normally tear up everything. They did nothing to these.

I think he was refering to the gamer, which does have a very soft cover, to soft in my opinion which is why I probably wont buy the gamers again.

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joshtpa Great Member

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But he makes no mention of the gamer in his entire post and the thread is about the Freak. You might be right, but did he not read the title?

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My bad, I was referring to the Gamer. I figured the Gamer was the only 3 piece ball that Top Flite made. I guess I got ahead of myself :p

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I actually did take a chunk out of a freak about a month ago with my cg14. I haven't really done it to too many balls, so when it happened to that I was really surprised just because distance balls really don't have the same tendency to shred as do premium balls (based on what I've read, I normally don't keep a ball long enough to do that much damage to it )

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that'" -Nietzsche

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Wisconsin Golfer Well Established Member

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Hey guys. I have used the BIG BERTHA red mostly, blue sometimes for years and have been very happy with them. However, I tried out the FREAK and love it. The FREAK seems to hit straighter and farther than any ball that I have ever used. It bites the green pretty good for a distance ball and with a little practice, I am putting very well with it.
Check out TOPFLITE.COM to see some hilarious commercials about the FREAK.
The FREAK is my new FREAKING ball, as they say.

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Hybrid: Big Bertha Heavenwood 3h
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Yeah the freak is a good ball . I forgot to mention in my last post- about a month ago the local sports authority had a sale on these golf balls. I think it was something like 5 dollars a dozen (they were sold in the two ball trial packs). I ended up buying 4 or 5 dozen for under 30 dollars.

"What is best about a great victory is that it rids the victor of the fear of defeat. 'Why not also lose for once?' he says to himself; 'now I am rich enough for
that'" -Nietzsche

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Zodiacba Newbie

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I have been using FREAKS for 2 years they seem to have added about 20 yards to my sticks, my golf buddys tell me it's all in my head cause my swing is better. My last thought before i hit is "hit it like it's a freak" wheather it in my head or the ball who cares....the ball has pretty good feel around the greens for a distance ball and comes off the putter nicely. It's all I'll use but 've always been a "FREAK" anyhow so it works for me Happy Hitting


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Originally Posted by Zodiacba

I have been using FREAKS for 2 years they seem to have added about 20 yards to my sticks, my golf buddys tell me it's all in my head cause my swing is better. My last thought before i hit is "hit it like it's a freak" wheather it in my head or the ball who cares....the ball has pretty good feel around the greens for a distance ball and comes off the putter nicely. It's all I'll use but 've always been a "FREAK" anyhow so it works for me Happy Hitting

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