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I've hit both twice at Golfsmith and I'm in a dead heat. Both with regular flex steel shafts, and there are different things I like about each set.

I presently play a set of Top-Flite irons that I won at an outing two years ago. I've gotten much more serious about my game this year and have steadily improved, but I'd like to step up to a nice set of irons. I reached my goal of getting into the 80's with my old gear and its time to send them off.

Any opinions, things to avoid. Similar clubs to look at?
Weapons Of Choice
R5 Dual 9.5* Driver
R7 Draw Hybrid 3
Tight Lies #4 16* Fairway Wood
HCT Tour Irons 5-SW CG-11 52 CG-11 56 CG-11 60 BC-101 Putter

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I absolutely love my X-20's and highly recommend them

In My Bag:

L5V 9.5*
X-Hot 3W
3H HybridIrons: Soon to Come X-Tour Forged 52* 56* 60* Wedges Detour 1


Posted
X-20's are a great choice. I really liked them when I demo'd them. Unfortunately, I didn't have the funds at the time.

- Tour Issue Taylormade R7 Superquad TP Matrix Ozik Xcon 5 X-stiff
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- Nike Dymo 5 Wood UST Axivcore Stiff- Nike Blades 3-PW S300- Nike SV Tour 50* 54* 58* S400- Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport Beach- Nike Tour D


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Both are winners. And you can't go wrong with either IMHO.

If after hitting them and considering how each set up, look, and feel you're still deadlocked then the "only" thing I have to say about which to purchase would be:

Callaway has a fantastic trade-in trade-up program. When you're hdcp is in single digits and you're ready to upgrade, then you'll get a great price for you're trade in to forged or tour's. No need to worry about selling them to a buddy or the Pro Shop.

Good luck on your choice and I'm sure you'll be chipping away at that hdcp with either.

If, by chance you're not absolutely set on them, you'd do yourself a disfavor if you didn't try the mizuno's. You can find practically "brand new" set's on Ebay for $450-$500. I got mine for $465 and they were advertised as "hit only once". When I got them there wasn't a single ball mark or scuff on them, 100% better looking then the demo clubs I tried out at the Pro shop. If you're not into Ebay, the MP-57's sell for the same price as the R7's and X-20's new. With a 15 hdcp you should be able to smack them around nicely.

http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clu...7_irons_review

in my EDGE bag:

10.5* XLS HiBore Driver, Fuji stiff VP70
15* XLS HiBore 3 Wood Gold stiff
22*, 25* XLS HiBore 3H, 4H, Gold stiff MP-57 5-PW, DG S300 MP-R 52 gap, MP-R 56 sandwedge SM Vokey 60 Lob Newport 2 Detour Pro-V1X, NXT Tour, Callaway Tour iXIgolf NEO GPS


Posted
I have the Callaway X20s and love them as well.

Do a search for Callaway Customer Service if you want a great reason to choose Callaway. They replaced the shaft on a 7 iron that broke when I threw it for free, with no shipping cost either way, with no other questions. I simply told them it was broken and that I broke it and they sent me a shipping label.

If the feel is equivalent for you, then you have to go with Customer Service.

I threw my clubs into the lake so it's time to start over...

Driver: Great Big Bertha II 10°, Callaway System 60 Firm
Woods: Tour 2400 Plus 3
Hybrid: 19.0° 503 H, Adila NV 85 SIrons: X20 4-GWPutter: Studio Select Newport 2


Posted
Simple thing is,all irons in the same category preform the same,it comes down to the grip and what you prefer to look down at.So its a personal choice.

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superfast tp 2.0 3 wood stiff
Halo 25 and taylormade tp 19 degree hybrids
miura cb 202 and wedge
tp 52* wedge, tp 56* taylormade spider mallet putter


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Simple thing is,all irons in the same category preform the same,it comes down to the grip and what you prefer to look down at.So its a personal choice.

Very true. I have the X-20s because I wanted to graduate from my Big Bertha irons, and when I went to the golf shop to demo new irons (practically all the game improvement irons) the X-20 had the familiar appearance when I would aproach the ball. Had to get use to the lighter head weight, but overall I was able to utlize them immeadiately.

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Very true. I have the X-20s because I wanted to graduate from my Big Bertha irons, and when I went to the golf shop to demo new irons (practically all the game improvement irons) the X-20 had the familiar appearance when I would aproach the ball. Had to get use to the lighter head weight, but overall I was able to utlize them immeadiately.

That is one thing I noticed with both sets of irons over my current model. The weight is significantly different and as a result my swing feels faster, I need to get that out of my head and work the lag a bit. The X-20's are looking better and better to me, especially given the good marks their service department has received here.

Weapons Of Choice
R5 Dual 9.5* Driver
R7 Draw Hybrid 3
Tight Lies #4 16* Fairway Wood
HCT Tour Irons 5-SW CG-11 52 CG-11 56 CG-11 60 BC-101 Putter

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Does anyone have the number to Callaway's customer service? I can not find it on their website?

In My Bag:

L5V 9.5*
X-Hot 3W
3H HybridIrons: Soon to Come X-Tour Forged 52* 56* 60* Wedges Detour 1


Posted
Does anyone have the number to Callaway's customer service? I can not find it on their website?

US toll free # 800-588-9836

US local # 760-931-1771 Canada # 800-387-7000 or also Found here

In my Pro-Walker stand bag:

Driver: Founders Club "The Judge" Graphite shaft (benched for bad play)
3-wood: 15* steel shaft
5 & 7-wood: Velocitized BBT Oversized Graphite Shaft Medium Flex 21* & 25*3-iron: Wilson Sam Snead Blue Ridge (benched for bad play)4-SW: Maker's Pride irons steel shaftsP...


Posted
Is this a joke?

I didnt scroll down far enough on the "Customer Service" main page, and clicked on "Contact Us" instead which only let me email them

In My Bag:

L5V 9.5*
X-Hot 3W
3H HybridIrons: Soon to Come X-Tour Forged 52* 56* 60* Wedges Detour 1


Posted
It's hard to go wrong with the X-20. I usually play my brother-in-law's X-14 and when I upgrade my own irons, will look at the X-20.

Driver: TaylorMade RocketBallz 10.5-deg
Woods: Cobra Bio Cell+ 3W and 5W
Hybrids: Bobby Jones Workshop Hybrid 3 (20-deg) and 5 (25-deg)
Irons: Srixon XXIO7 from 6 - PW
Wedge: Srixon XXIO7 GW and SW

Putter: Bobby Grace DCT Captiva 34"; Ball: Sirxon Soft Feel; Shoes: Footjoy


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I played a set of X-18's over the weekend. They are a friends that has since moved into a X-Forged set. He's trying to pawn them off on me for $300 which I feel is strong, but I wasn't about to turn down the chance to take them for a test drive.

I loved having a 3i and 4i in the bag, and I really liked the look of the club. I know its crazy, its cosmetics, it means nothing......but I do feel it gave me this weird confident feeling in the club. Almost like they would make me play better than I normally do, just on the basis of how they looked. Incidentally they did, I shot a season low 81, and I'm officially left scratching my head now. Because I didn't even take a wood with me. I tee'd off with the 3i and did it on purpose so that I hit all of the irons both off the tee and the fairway. Apparently accuracy can make up for longer shots that land in the rough.



I'm really gonna take my time on this purchase as I don't want to buy the wrong clubs as I've seen so many people do.
Weapons Of Choice
R5 Dual 9.5* Driver
R7 Draw Hybrid 3
Tight Lies #4 16* Fairway Wood
HCT Tour Irons 5-SW CG-11 52 CG-11 56 CG-11 60 BC-101 Putter

Posted
I played a set of X-18's over the weekend. They are a friends that has since moved into a X-Forged set. He's trying to pawn them off on me for $300 which I feel is strong, but I wasn't about to turn down the chance to take them for a test drive.

$300 is a good price if it is a full set in decent condition.

Check Callaway preowned.com to see what they would cost otherwise. I love the X-18, I am thinking of upgrading tothe X-20 maybe.

Driver: X460 tour- 9.5*
3-wood: 3+ - 13*
Hybrid: BB HW 20*
Hybrid: 24*
Irons: X-20 Uniflex SteelWedges: Colonial 56* & 60*Putter: XG SabertoothBall: GPS-8âIf you are caught on a golf course during a storm and are afraid of lightning, hold up a 1-iron. Not even God...


Posted
This is going to be that kind of decision that haunts me all winter. If I choose the Callaway clubs I'll have to ebay my Taylor Made bag and get a Callaway to calm my golf ho OCD.
Weapons Of Choice
R5 Dual 9.5* Driver
R7 Draw Hybrid 3
Tight Lies #4 16* Fairway Wood
HCT Tour Irons 5-SW CG-11 52 CG-11 56 CG-11 60 BC-101 Putter

Posted
To check out the trade in value for your clubs, go to www.callawaygolf.com and click on the trade in/trade up button, which will then link you to the instructions and the price list for your trade ins. To actually do the trade-in you add in the clubs you want to trade on a big check list, callaway gives you a credit, and then you select or build your new clubs on the site. It's pretty easy and the trade in prices are fair.

In my C-130 Cart Bag:

Driver: Titleist D2 10.5° Aldila R.I.P. 60
Woods Exotics CB4 15° Aldila R.I.P. 70
Hybrids Exotics CB4 17°, 22° Aldila R.I.P. 80 

Irons 4-PW MP-57 Project X 6.0, MP-29 PW

Wedges  Eidolon 52°, 60° Rifle Spinner 6.5

Putter Bettinardi BB12

Ball One Black

Rangefinder Nikon Laser 500"Golf...


Posted
the X-22's should be out very soon, at least in my area. i saw a Callaway club try-out session with Ernie Els and Rocco Mediate on the Golf Channel. they both LOVED the X-22's.(good reviews on the FT-iq as well)

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