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Mr. Desmond Super Member

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Most irons feel like butter when I hit them. Maybe solid contact is the source of the butter?



When properly fit, all irons feel sweet with proper face contact.

But they do feel different.

And even that feel is subjective ... different for everyone.

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Danattherock Great Member

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Originally Posted by Shorty

People only accept your hyperbole because the clubs are comparatively rare and expensive.

They would laugh if someone said the same things about a more common club, which could feel as "buttery" as yours.

To your first comment above, I don't consider Miura irons that rare or expensive. I called the guy on his cell phone Saturday night and had my clubs Wednesday morning. The price, while higher than most, is not offensive. I could have bought the Callaway RAZR Black irons I was eyeing, not hit them well, sold them for whatever, bought a set of Rocketballz irons and spent more money than my Miura irons. The term expensive is relative of course.

To the second comment, a "more common club" would never be as buttery as my Miura's due to the lack of Japanese softer carbon steel that used to be reserved only for hand forged Japanese swords. Some BS in that line, but the carbon steel Miura uses is softer than most others. That could very well have something to do with the feel. My club specs are unchanged in 3 years, so club fit has not changed with this new purchase.

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Most irons feel like butter when I hit them. Maybe solid contact is the source of the butter?

When properly fit, all irons feel sweet with proper face contact.

But they do feel different.

And even that feel is subjective ... different for everyone.



No, the fit doesn't really matter. I got irons with all kinds of setup. It's like the dairy case exploded there's so much butter.

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Mr. Desmond Super Member

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

No, the fit doesn't really matter. I got irons with all kinds of setup. It's like the dairy case exploded there's so much butter.



Yeah, the fit matters.

Gheez.

If you hit an iron with too stiff a shaft, it doesn't feel the same.

And I'm not in agreement on the feeling of butter ... sweet contact feels like nothingness.

As I stated before, feel is different for everyone, which is one reason we like different clubs and shafts.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

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No, the fit doesn't really matter. I got irons with all kinds of setup. It's like the dairy case exploded there's so much butter.

Yeah, the fit matters.

Gheez.

If you hit an iron with too stiff a shaft, it doesn't feel the same.

And I'm not in agreement on the feeling of butter ... sweet contact feels like nothingness.

As I stated before, feel is different for everyone, which is one reason we like different clubs and shafts.



I'll take your word for it, but I haven't hit that shaft yet.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

I'll take your word for it, but I haven't hit that shaft yet.



For me, it was a Rifle 6.0. Too much shaft.  The point I'm making, is there is a reason many guys don't like  certain shafts -- it doesn't give them the feel they want even with the right flex. Take DG - when you only had one option several years ago in DG - R300 or S300 for most of us - when compared to a shaft like a Nippon or even a graphite shaft, you get different vibrations and sounds -- and that results to a different feel for each of us, because we are all unique. Now the difference may not be much, and some people are more sensitive to feel than others - but we all sense head/shaft combos a little bit differently even though within a certain range, we may describe the feel in the same way.

My favorite take is on the Miura CB 201/202 w Nippon 1050 about 8 yrs ago - when I bought them, I was expecting this "hot like butter" feel. I got nothing like that - it was weird - the feeling I had when they were hit correctly was not soft  but direct and precise, almost like a dense feel of ball against club. It took about two months to appreciate it. Great shots exploded but there was a certain feeling that even now I have difficulty describing.

After a few years, I went to the Miura CB-301 w Nippon 1050 and it was that soft "buttah" feeling. I thought "that's what I was expecting with the 201's that I never got. Sweet contact meant a feeling of nothingness, as if you didn't even hit the ball -- it was golf nirvana.

But I still wanted to go back to the 201 feeling -- it made you feel like a surgeon with a scalpel in your hand -- those clubs felt that precise and direct.

Feel ... it's different for everyone... but within a certain range, we describe it with similar adjectives.

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Today's shafts and grips mute feel. I've hit a lot of vintage irons and woods with stock shafts and grips. When hit on the button they feel good, sort of like almost any shot with a modern GI iron with new rubber(ish) grips. Compared to the oldies, every club nowadays feels like butter. I stand by that statement.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Today's shafts and grips mute feel. I've hit a lot of vintage irons and woods with stock shafts and grips. When hit on the button they feel good, sort of like almost any shot with a modern GI iron with new rubber(ish) grips. Compared to the oldies, every club nowadays feels like butter. I stand by that statement.



Well, that's a fairly bold statement.

But I guess that's why you're "member of the year."

Enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Today's shafts and grips mute feel. I've hit a lot of vintage irons and woods with stock shafts and grips. When hit on the button they feel good, sort of like almost any shot with a modern GI iron with new rubber(ish) grips. Compared to the oldies, every club nowadays feels like butter. I stand by that statement.

Well, that's a fairly bold statement.

But I guess that's why you're "member of the year."

Enjoy.



LOL - what I mean is that I've played such shitty irons in my days that all modern irons feel like "butter" relatively speaking compared tod 1940s era Spaldings and H&Bs.; Every new irons feels great compared to the old joint rattling POS stainless steel leather gripped paper thin Robert T Jones etc I've used in the past.

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Roblar Dedicated Member

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Very pretty.

Sadly, I won't follow suit.

I would be afraid to take those to the range.  So I wouldn't pratice. So my swing would get worse and worse.

I'd better stick to the used clubs I pick up on the cheap that I'm more than happy to take to the range...


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