turning club face out

[TheNatural]

When I turn the club face out on a pw or 60* do I lose backspin and stop power on the green? I ask since the grooves no longer bite but cut at an angle across the ball, sure spin is imparted but perhaps less?


club face out is used
if a hazard is in play or tree and quick loft is needed.

[TheNatural]

ill ask the google

[wachesawgolfer]

Are you referring to opening the face? This has no effect on the grooves as you would still set up correctly and swing in to in such that the club face is flat but still square to the target line and making solid contact with the ball. The more you open the face the more left (open) you set up to make the ball go straight. If you lack body swing and just flail your arms you swing path will be out to in even on a short wedge shot and the open face will make the ball, then slice or shank even more no matter how you set up.

[TheNatural]

Yes I understand the aim is as much as 45degrees left of club face direction but the swing still comes in at impact on the ball with "head on" but tilted out so a angle and greater loft is imparted. the questions is ..will a groove bite still? I would think horizontal grooves would bite better with club face square. the "out to in" angle of impact with the grooves and the ball would create loft but sidespin also.

When I practice turning out a club I never see millings from the cover. When its square it seems there may be 3 grooves with millings in them. I can also hear the spin whiz away from me and the ball bites and backs up, when the face is turned out angle of desecent is sharper but a bump and roll occurs.