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  1. 1. Right Now - who is better - Lefty or Tiger?

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really? How about topless LPGA Tournament (by invitation only of course!)

You may as well have said the Champions Tour.

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You may as well have said the Champions Tour.

Gross dude.......I just threw up a little in my mouth. Personally, I don't want to see Hale Irwin, Jay Haas, or Monty topless. But to each his own, AJ..............

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Gross dude.......I just threw up a little in my mouth. Personally, I don't want to see Hale Irwin, Jay Haas, or Monty topless. But to each his own, AJ..............

Haha, well, personally I don't find much on the Lesbian's Tour sexy either...

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Haha, well, personally I don't find much on the Lesbian's Tour sexy either...

Back to topic, guys...

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Topic doesn't exist after the 2006 US Open
Tiger did bogey last two holes in the Masters, but he WON. He'd never blow up like that.
Case closed. Fat-tits-Phil is not even close (at least in my book).

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Yeah, as is clearly demonstrated by Tiger's uncanny ability to never break down under pressure vis a vi his great performances at this Open.

Um hum.

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Topic doesn't exist after the 2006 US Open

I think Tiger is the better golfer, and certainly a better closer. The question was is who is better

RIGHT NOW . If that is this poll and argument in this thread, Phil is better RIGHT NOW , but not necesarily a better golfer overall, since Tiger has had 8 weeks of break/ grieving to contend with. If Tiger and Phil are to be judged now, the only indicator we have is by recent performance, and in this case, Phil mopped the floor with him.
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I actually think Phil may have more (or at least as much) god-given physical talent for the game than Tiger -- but Tiger has more dedication/work-ethic and a better golfing mind.
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Originally posted by Rafcin

Fat-tits-Phil is not even close (at least in my book).

You noticed that too? Did you see in the interviews leading up to the US Open when a reporter asked Phil if the locals had seen him around town. He answered that he'd been around but mostly the Ice Cream shops. Then when you see him on Sunday with that yellow shirt his fat boobs were flopping around all over the place. He needs a ManBra. Before we get the back on topic post, definitely Phil has better tits than Tiger so in that category he wins hands down.

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I think anyone who says Phil is better than Tiger in any way is part of a racist right-wing conspiracy designed to minimalize and marginalize the accomplishments of blacks and other ethnic minorities in sports. No doubt a White Sox fan too.


Kidding.

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The reason Phil is mad is because his wife promised him breast reduction surgery for Father's Day -- ONLY if he won. She got tired of the nipple confusion the newborns in her family were facing...

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I think Tiger is the better golfer, and certainly a better closer. The question was is who is better

hm.. I created the poll and I don't recall using the word "now" anywhere

If they play each other right now - Phil would be dormie on 15th... just to lose on the first extra hole Ok, just teasing. But seriously - if we want to really talk about NOW (read=after the US Open) - I doubt Phil would be able to score anything below 80 on a county course right now. His head must look inside like Hiroshima after the big kaboom. He's lucky if he ever recovers... After all he's know to be weak mentally - how many times did he blow a chance to win a major? All the nightmares are back out to get him. One have to be really strong to block it off. With all that - RIGHT NOW Tiger is still better player
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Originally posted by Rafcin

no kidding. Actually I'm not THAT sick to notice it - it was my wife who screamed out (watching him walking down the fairway in the yellow shirt) "Look Honey, his man-boobs are WAY bigger than yours! You're not THAT fat!!!"
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I actually think Phil may have more (or at least as much) god-given physical talent for the game than Tiger -- but Tiger has more dedication/work-ethic and a better golfing mind.

And I think John Daly has more natural talent than both of them put together, but works less at his game than I do.

As for Rafi's man boobs, at least they don't get in the way of his putting stroke most of the time. Let's leave talk of Phil's boobs where it belongs - in the trash - for now, k guys?

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Hey Rafi;For the $10.00 you owe me from Erik lets let it fly on "THE OPEN" and I got Phill and you Tiger.We on?

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If it was a match between them right now at this very moment, I believe it would be a battle of the mentally unfit.

With Tigers dad recently dying, he's in no better mental shape than Phil is with the loss @ Winged Foot.

I think they'd both play like crap if you pinned them head to head right now.

As for overall talent and mental strength, Tiger wins hands down. He doesn't choke under the pressure. And is overall a better physical player as well.

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Hey Rafi;For the $10.00 you owe me from Erik lets let it fly on "THE OPEN" and I got Phill and you Tiger.We on?

You're talking about the British? You're on my man. I predict Phil needing rest of the season to recover, IMHO he's done for the year.

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