Y.E. Yang and Cavity Backs?

[kleraudio]

Y.E. Yang was playing TM r7 irons in his PGA Championship win??

Ive heard countless times that game improvement irons are for mid cappers who dont really work the ball, they just want forgiveness and straightness on their shots.

Assuming these courses are hardcore, I would imagine you cant win one of these tournies without being able to shape shots and hit different things like knockdowns, high fades, low draws, etc, etc......

Did he really play R7's or is golfsmith just trying to make some sales???

Jim

[Chilli Dipper]

Believe it: Kenny Perry plays the R7 irons, too.

[Taylor Shrake]

http://blogs.golf.com/equipment/2009...olf-clubs.html

I've never seen golf.com wrong on winner's bags.... guess he did.

[CG031]

Y.E. Yang was playing TM r7 irons in his PGA Championship win??

First of all, he's probably playing the R7 TP version, which isn't exactly a cub for a mid to high handicapper. They lean MORE towards player irons. Also, really good ball strikers can still work the ball with something like an R7 TP. They aren't a Super Game Improvement Iron or anything.

[NativeTxn]

He was playing the R7 TPs, which are designed more for lower handicappers than the "regular" r7s.

http://www.golfdigest.com/golfworld/...ersbag20090816

http://www.golfsmith.com/products/TM...h_Steel_Shafts

So Golfsmith's front page link regarding Yang's winning bag is part right in that he used r7s, but the link takes you to the "regular" r7s and not the r7 TPs that Yang used.

[kleraudio]

What exactly is the difference in the TP's vs the "regulars"?

Jim

[CG031]

From my understanding...
A few differences:
-Non-TP has a closed face angle with some offset around 3-4 deg closed
-TP has a neutral face angle around 1 degree closed to 1 degree open in that area.

The NON-TP has more of a draw bias for your higher handicap players who tend to slice, and the stiffer shaft and flex point will produce a slightly lower ball flight from the TP's.

[kleraudio]

Thanks CG, Ive never heard of irons having a closed face?? I play the King Cobra SS irons and looking at them now, there is offset but no closed face...

I have never sliced an iron shot, ive blocked them right but never sliced them...

Jim

[CG031]

Well, they aren't really closed but have the off-set which makes it more draw bias and less workable.

[kleraudio]

So having offset makes a club less workable? why is that? Because the face is naturally closed at impact so you cant do much with it?

Thanks!

Jim

[CG031]

So having offset makes a club less workable? why is that? Because the face is naturally closed at impact so you cant do much with it?

Well, it promotes a closed clubface at impact, so basically, yeah, it's hard to get the club open to play a controlled fade, and for good players a lot don't like the offset because they can hook them a lot and not have the greatest control.

[kleraudio]

You know your stuff! Thanks man, I think my swing is getting to the point where I need less offset as well... Im starting to hook a bit more than I'd like... though Im happy with that, it means my swing is coming around!

So the TP may be an option, because I really dont want to play blades, just to get less offset, I'll have to go to GS and hit them around a bit...

Jim