My Swing (senorchipotle)

[senorchipotle]

here's a couple vids of my 5-iron dtl and face on. distances are consistently 200 +/-10 yards, but having problems with accuracy. any and all help/critique greatly appreciated.

[Shanks A Million]

Oh, this is so easy. Loose wrists sink ships... or, wait, maybe not. Either way, look at the DTL swing. The club droops a bit at the top, and on the finish, the club droops back down again. The wrists, and likely the grip pressure, are too loose. Now look at the face on. The arms keep turning after the body stops.

So, basically, your smaller muscles have merely become too active. You need to quiet them down a bit. I recommend one Stricker drill, and call me in the morning.

[senorchipotle]

yeah, i was looking at the face on and noticed my hands were barely ahead of the ball at impact. should i bring my elbow farther forward in my downswing?

[Shanks A Million]

yeah, i was looking at the face on and noticed my hands were barely ahead of the ball at impact. should i bring my elbow farther forward in my downswing?

You'll have to defer to the pros on that one, but I'd say that the loose wrists could be a reason for an early release. There is an early release too, I see the lag angle is obtuse at hip high, like, very obtuse, 130° or so. The club also crosses the hands well before the proper followthrough position. I'd say these

could all be from too much wrist and arm action. I'm not really knowledgeable enough to comment further than that.

[sean_miller]

I was gonna refer to happy feet and hands. Whenever I see a swing that long I want to point it out, but maybe it's because I'm not that flexible.

[Titleist Gibson20]

to much backswing, your take away looked pretty good

[senorchipotle]

You'll have to defer to the pros on that one, but I'd say that the loose wrists could be a reason for an early release. There is an early release too, I see the lag angle is obtuse at hip high, like, very obtuse, 130° or so. I'm not really knowledgeable enough to comment further than that.

yeah, i noticed that. i've been fighting a steep swing, and as a result my long irons were very inconsistent cause i was moving my swing arc too far forward, but i had good lag. so i tried to shallow it out a bit and now my hands are too far behing at impact.

[senorchipotle]

I was gonna refer to happy feet and hands. Whenever I see a swing that long I want to point it out, but maybe it's because I'm not that flexible.

happy feet? honestly though, i'm not consciously doing anything with my hands to manipulate the face.

[sean_miller]

happy feet? honestly though, i'm not consciously doing anything with my hands to manipulate the face.

In the DTL - maybe it's the shoes. Your left foot is rolling or sliding or something. The "happy hands" comment was just an extension of the long loose swing - a little bias injected in my comments since mine is compact to excess.

[Uber$winG]

The contact sounds sweet, and your backswing is sound (not too long at all)… but you’re casting – it’s ever so slight – but you are casting. You’re letting go of your lag a millisecond too early.

[senorchipotle]

In the DTL - maybe it's the shoes. Your left foot is rolling or sliding or something. The "happy hands" comment was just an extension of the long loose swing - a little bias injected in my comments since mine is compact to excess.

my left foot tends to come up in the backswing from time to time, but i plant it firmly before starting my downswing. that's actually how i know i've shifted my hips properly when i can feel the weight of my lower body pushing back down into the arch of my left foot. you'd be surprised at how many of the pro's actually lift their heels slightly off the ground. plus, ben hogan says it's ok.

[senorchipotle]

The contact sounds sweet, and your backswing is sound (not too long at all)… but you’re casting – it’s ever so slight – but you are casting. You’re letting go of your lag a millisecond too early.

appreciated! yeah, i see what you mean as far as casting goes. i think getting my flying wedge farther forward in the downswing would square that away. i'm just timid for fear of pushing the ball out to right field.

[senorchipotle]

iacas, butch... i'd appreciate any advice you guys could impart.

[GDIB_net]

be more specific--define problem with accuracy. GDIB

[delav]

I'll echo what others have said, I think your wrist are a bit too passing at the top and allow the club to wallow just a bit as you transition and generate lag. The wrist should be soft enough to generate lag as the lower body shifts, but not soft enough to let the club "flop," for lack of a better term. A good visual that was passed along the way was to envision how a waiter might carry a large serving tray, and mimic that position with the right wrist and palm. More specifically, firming up the right wrist will prevent excess radial deviation of the wrist, and this will allow you a better sensation of the clubs position at the top.

I'd use a mirror to find your ideal position at the top, and get a feel for how it feels when the right wrist deviates in the radial and ulnar deviation. Find this position in your pre shot routine until you build that feeling into your muscle memory.

The other thing I noticed is something strange through impact. You are casting and releasing a bit early, and perhaps as a result your follow through is a bit shallow and forced. It doesn't look natural, and it looks like you are wrestling the club around your body rather than allowing the path of your follow through to guide your release.

[Shanks A Million]

I'll echo what others have said, I think your wrist are a bit too passing at the top and allow the club to wallow just a bit as you transition and generate lag. The wrist should be soft enough to generate lag as the lower body shifts, but not soft enough to let the club "flop," for lack of a better term. A good visual that was passed along the way was to envision how a waiter might carry a large serving tray, and mimic that position with the right wrist and palm. More specifically, firming up the right wrist will prevent excess radial deviation of the wrist, and this will allow you a better sensation of the clubs position at the top.

Mickelson's swing is somewhat similar. He lets the club "droop" a touch at the top, and often fires a touch early. Kostis did a swing evalution with the Swing Vision that showed it, he and Harmon said he was working on getting a better impact position (don't know when this was, a while back). Anyway, Mickelson is amazingly good at controlling it, but you've seen what happens when he's got an off day.

[senorchipotle]

be more specific--define problem with accuracy. GDIB

sometimes my balls will come off too far left.

[senorchipotle]

 

Haven't done this in a while... here's my current swing with 6 iron

Haven't kept a legit handicap, but first three rounds this year have been +3, +4, +2

 

what i'm working on:

1. shortening my backswing in order to stay more connected going forward

2. more side tilt in the downswing/getting the bottom of my swing forward to eliminate that unsightly flippy action and lower ball flight

3. eliminating the early extension just before impact... which should straighten itself out once I take care of #2.

 

any advice appreciated gents!