Which blades to get? Titleist or Mizuno?

[Clambake]

Originally Posted by delav

It's silly to debate as there really isn't a definitive answer to which iron is better.  Both are great options.

Exactly.   Both manufacturers make quality clubs that perform well.     Asking which is better is sort of like asking "Which is better, Chevy or Ford?".    OK, well, Chevy so maybe that isn't the best example.   Maybe more like "Mercedes or BMW?".    OK, that one isn't so good either as it is obviously BMW.      OK then, maybe "Blonde or brunette?".      Uh, since I'm married to one I have to say brunette.

Ah hell, just go with Mizuno....they're obviously the best!

[Matt M]

I'm a Mizuno guy so I'm probably bias, but Mizuno doesn't cheap out when they make their irons. For instance Nike's new forged blades have the Gisele welded on they aren't they only company doing this. Mizuno takes pride in their products. Most players that switch to Mizuno stay with the brand so to make a short story long go with the Mizunos.

[rebby]

...For instance Nike's new forged blades have the Gisele welded on...

The WHAT welded on???

[tweaky]

she was my girlfriend when i was in Germany!  she's into welding now?!

[spearq8]

I think with blades you have to rethink your philosophy of hitting a golf ball.  With a blade you really have to reduce your swing speed because the performance happens only when you hit the sweet spot.  A good strike on a blade will go much further than an equivalent strike with a CB, also your shot dispersion is dramatically tighter.  People have a hard time swinging less hard, especially on the longer irons.  If more people would hit their blades on a launch monitor, they will quickly realize that increasing swing speed is not the way to get good distance, but rather hitting the sweet spot is the real deal.  That is why with a blade you really need to have an absolute perfect fit for lie angle and shaft fitting.  If you get properly fitted for blades, you will never want to hit anything else ... but a poor fitting for blades will make you hate the game of golf.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by rebby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt M

...For instance Nike's new forged blades have the Gisele welded on...

The WHAT welded on???

Probably the hosel, like Miura does.

[tefunk]

I have gamed both Mizuno and Titleist, and both make great clubs.

Bought a used set of MP-33s for $120 a few years ago.  I played them for about a year and really worked on my swing, which you pretty much have to do to hit blades.  Great clubs when I hit the sweet spot, and helped fix my swing.  The following year I bought brand new MP-52s, and I love them.  The feel is great, the offset is minimal, and the muscle/cavity back provide a little more forgiveness than the blades, but still the workability.

I guess I just wanted to throw my two cents in there as far as maybe there are other options than just the blades.  There are some cavity/muscle back clubs with minimal offset and offer some forgiveness without losing a ton of workabilty.  Not sure if this is something you've considered.

Side note - I did get $75 for trade in on the MP-33s, and probably woud have got $100 on CL or something.  So like previous posters noted, if you don't like them, at $100 they pretty much hold their value because there's always someone willing to pay $100 for a set of good used blades.

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by tefunk

So like previous posters noted, if you don't like them, at $100 they pretty much hold their value because there's always someone willing to pay $100 for a set of good used blades.

Translated as:

There's always a relatively new golfer who joins a golf forum or two and reads this and that about "blades"

Transfixed by the desire to know what it's all about - the softness - the "buttah" - the "feel" the opportunity to improve his "ballstriking" (meaning hitting the ball), he embarks on a quest.

He is told that "cavity backs make you a better player. Blades make you a better golfer" (yeah, I'm still scratching my head too.)

He finds a set of shiny blades, has a go, - at best they probably have the wrong shafts and 1 in 10 shots feel almost like the modern clubs he's using, for the rest, he may as well be using a crow bar. Encouraged by those on the forum who have never used them he perseveres. Eventually, he becomes frustrated and comes to the inevitable conclusion that although they can be pieces of art, almost sculptural in their beauty, equipment has evolved and off to ebay they go.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Shorty

Quote:

Originally Posted by tefunk

So like previous posters noted, if you don't like them, at $100 they pretty much hold their value because there's always someone willing to pay $100 for a set of good used blades.

Translated as:

There's always a relatively new golfer who joins a golf forum or two and reads this and that about "blades"

Transfixed by the desire to know what it's all about - the softness - the "buttah" - the "feel" the opportunity to improve his "ballstriking" (meaning hitting the ball), he embarks on a quest.

He is told that "cavity backs make you a better player. Blades make you a better golfer" (yeah, I'm still scratching my head too.)

He finds a set of shiny blades, has a go, - at best they probably have the wrong shafts and 1 in 10 shots feel almost like the modern clubs he's using, for the rest, he may as well be using a crow bar. Encouraged by those on the forum who have never used them he perseveres. Eventually, he becomes frustrated and comes to the inevitable conclusion that although they can be pieces of art, almost sculptural in their beauty, equipment has evolved and off to ebay they go.

So . . . Mizzy or Ti**y?

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

So . . . Mizzy or Ti**y?

Tizzy.

or Mitty?

Dizzy?

[tefunk]

Originally Posted by Shorty

Translated as:

There's always a relatively new golfer who joins a golf forum or two and reads this and that about "blades"

Transfixed by the desire to know what it's all about - the softness - the "buttah" - the "feel" the opportunity to improve his "ballstriking" (meaning hitting the ball), he embarks on a quest.

He is told that "cavity backs make you a better player. Blades make you a better golfer" (yeah, I'm still scratching my head too.)

He finds a set of shiny blades, has a go, - at best they probably have the wrong shafts and 1 in 10 shots feel almost like the modern clubs he's using, for the rest, he may as well be using a crow bar. Encouraged by those on the forum who have never used them he perseveres. Eventually, he becomes frustrated and comes to the inevitable conclusion that although they can be pieces of art, almost sculptural in their beauty, equipment has evolved and off to ebay they go.

As brilliant as you must be, it looks like you should start using a new translator...

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Probably the hosel, like Miura does.

Wait, wait, wait.  Miura WELDS the hosel on???  Oh wow, that just took them out of the running for me.

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

So . . . Mizzy or Ti**y?

Mizzy.  As you can see from my name, I used to be Titleist guy and honestly, theres no comparison.  In terms of softness and feel, Mizuno all the way.  My brother still has my old set of Titleists (MB 710s) and last summer I borrowed them for a day just to verify my preference for Mizunos and yup, no comparison.  Theyre still great irons that I can hit very pure shots with but the feel and feedback just isnt that same as Mizunos.

[MiniBlueDragon]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Probably the hosel, like Miura does.

Wait, wait, wait.  Miura WELDS the hosel on???  Oh wow, that just took them out of the running for me.

Spin-forging rather than welding:

3:05 for the process.

[The Tin Man]

Here I am expecting a little old man beating away at a hand forge folding and unfolding an small piece of steel into a blade that could cut god until giving it the final shape of an iron. Plunged into a vat of horse urine beginning months of hand shaping with stones and sharkskin, until finally the finished iron is taken to the prison yard for range testing. The old man walks off into the wilderness never to be seen again.

The finished clubs are not mine.......my Kung-fu is weak, used Hogans will have to do. (Bullet forged by Texas Rangers.)

PS - Thanks for sharing that clip. Now I want a set!

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[Rednax1530]

I agree with allot of the other posts on here. You need to test both prospective brands and figure out which ones you like better. Thats the best way to do it as far as I'm concerned.  Just because some clubs are extremely expensive, it does not mean they will work for you.

I hope you can find clubs that suit you!

Just as a note, Miura clubs have been the best feeling clubs I have ever tried.. But thats my opinion and they may not work for you.

Mitch G

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon

Spin-forging rather than welding:

3:05 for the process.

Ok, that makes more sense now.  I was pretty shocked that a company like Miura would take such a shortcut as welding the hosel onto a forged head.  I know some other companies do it on their forged heads because its an easy shortcut and more people dont realize they do it or consider what it does to feel but would never expect Mr Miura to do something like that.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon

Spin-forging rather than welding:

3:05 for the process.

Ok, that makes more sense now.  I was pretty shocked that a company like Miura would take such a shortcut as welding the hosel onto a forged head.  I know some other companies do it on their forged heads because its an easy shortcut and more people dont realize they do it or consider what it does to feel but would never expect Mr Miura to do something like that.

"Spin forging" just looks like welding. You know that Mr. Miura has very little to do with actually making the irons, right? Then again, some people actually believe Scotty Cameron and Bob Vokey are spending their days making putters and wedges. Either way, even Mizunos and Titleists which claim to be forged often attach or embed other materials in order to enhance certain characteristics meant to convince the average player he's making better contact than he really is. It tricks the average hacker into thinking he's hitting ___insert brand name____ better than any other.