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So my previous R9 TP driver is set to default setting and on address, the face is slightly open for me. Not because of the driver is set to open,

but it's just how I set my arms on address.

Now my new R11 TP driver is squared up on address and I'm still trying to get used to this driver.

It feels that I can hit the draw a bit easier with my older R9.

Now the questions are:

1. Do tour pros prefer a 2 degree open face driver?

2. If so, why? And if not, what do they use?

3. Since the draw is a right to left shot, is my old set up the right way to do it?

(slightly open face on address, as if I'm aiming right)

Cheers




  Sai-Jin said:
Originally Posted by Sai-Jin

So my previous R9 TP driver is set to default setting and on address, the face is slightly open for me. Not because of the driver is set to open,

but it's just how I set my arms on address.

Now my new R11 TP driver is squared up on address and I'm still trying to get used to this driver.

It feels that I can hit the draw a bit easier with my older R9.

Now the questions are:

1. Do tour pros prefer a 2 degree open face driver?

2. If so, why? And if not, what do they use?

3. Since the draw is a right to left shot, is my old set up the right way to do it?

(slightly open face on address, as if I'm aiming right)

Cheers



1. Do tour pros prefer a 2 degree open face driver? Doesn't matter what pros use ( you've got your own swing )

2. If so, why? And if not, what do they use? As above

3. Since the draw is a right to left shot, is my old set up the right way to do it?

(slightly open face on address, as if I'm aiming right) You are right. The ball will start in the DIRECTION THE CLUB FACE IS POINTING...so to hit a draw, the clubface must be closed relative to the swing path , then you have to leave room for a draw so you have to aim the clubface to the right and then swing further to the right.

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Aha... no wonder I was hitting right to left all day long with my old R9 and now with the R11, I'm either hooking or hitting it straight with a big draw.

Thanks for the confirmation.

But out of curiosity though, I still want to know if the tourpros do prefer a 2* open club driver on default and if they do, what is the reason.




  Sai-Jin said:
Originally Posted by Sai-Jin

But out of curiosity though, I still want to know if the tourpros do prefer a 2* open club driver on default and if they do, what is the reason.


Here's my understanding of it (take from this what you will):  the big terrifying miss, especially for those who play a draw, is the over-curve (this is why I don't understand it when people claim a draw eliminates the right side of the course for a right-hander.  Are they planning on hooking everything?).

The more the face is open, the more right the ball will start relative to where the player would have started the ball with a neutral face driver .  So, this setting would give some slight more insurance against a hook (not against the ball hooking;  against where the ball ends up in event of a hook), and a huge amount of insurance against a pull hook, at the risk that the player might occasionally send one straight into the first cut on the right.

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Interesting, that's really informative, thank you.

And you are right, per my experience, with my new R11, I've been hitting a lot of big curved draws after a straight ball flight plus a bit more hooks than normal.

But that's because of my square at address face. I'm gonna pull my right leg back so that my club is slightly open again as when I used my R9 and see where it goes.

Oh btw, what is a baby draw?




  Sai-Jin said:
Originally Posted by Sai-Jin

Interesting, that's really informative, thank you.

And you are right, per my experience, with my new R11, I've been hitting a lot of big curved draws after a straight ball flight plus a bit more hooks than normal.

But that's because of my square at address face. I'm gonna pull my right leg back so that my club is slightly open again as when I used my R9 and see where it goes.

Oh btw, what is a baby draw?



A very small draw

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  Sai-Jin said:
Originally Posted by Sai-Jin

The one that kinda go straight then after the top of the ball height, it just turns left a little?



Yeah.  A baby curve is essentially straight, but will move slightly in one direction.   It's nice to know about if it's your flight, so you don't go straight for a pin on the left, but maybe you can go straight for a pin on the right.  Essentially a very narrow shot cone.

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I have seen my ball does this a couple of times, but more often a bigger draw or an error of a push.

Seems like this is the hardest shot to make in golf?


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