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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

Should I just sell my driver?



What made you go with the X shafts in everything? Just curious.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Originally Posted by Vladimir Puttin'

How far do you hit your 3 wood?  Driver?  What's the loft of each?



275 with my 3 wood 15* 270 with my driver 9.5

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

What made you go with the X shafts in everything? Just curious.



I swing really hard. I don't know any better yet.

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Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
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Originally Posted by bertspro

I've found it's very helpful for dialing in distances to hit clubs of the same family through the bag as much as possible, i.e. TaylorMade r11 fws/driver,TM burner irons/hybrids, Cleveland cg family wedges, etc...

I was having a similar problem to yours with big gaps in my yardages until after last season I went about trying to get some more consistency through my bag, now I like to think I have pretty much all yardages covered.



I'm not having problems with yardage gaps. I just can't hit my driver

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Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
Irons: Maltby TE Forged 5-PW TrueTemper X-300
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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

What made you go with the X shafts in everything? Just curious.

I swing really hard. I don't know any better yet.



Okay, just curious since most people I've known who hit a fairway wood farther don't generate enough clubhead speed to use an X shaft. With a 270 yard 3-wood, you probably do. Personally I've always felt that shaft stiffness beyond R shafts has more to do with your transition speed than clubhead speed. I can hit R shafts or X shafts, but prefer S.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

I'm not having problems with yardage gaps. I just can't hit my driver


What he's saying is that if your driver and 3-wood are matched, then you might get more traditional distance gaps that you'd expect from a driver and 3-wood.

Basically, you've got 2 options:  either you've got the wrong swing, or you're hitting the wrong club.  If you've got the wrong swing, then your question is answered.  If you're hitting the wrong club, then why not try the RAZR driver that matches your 3-wood (particularly the shaft).

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Okay, just curious since most people I've known who hit a fairway wood farther don't generate enough clubhead speed to use an X shaft. With a 270 yard 3-wood, you probably do. Personally I've always felt that shaft stiffness beyond R shafts has more to do with your transition speed than clubhead speed. I can hit R shafts or X shafts, but prefer S.


I had s300's but I would balloon the ball  I like the way x stiff feels alot better too.

My Bag: Nike Vapor X
Driver: Diablo Octane Tour Project 7.0  X-Stiff
Woods: Callaway RAZR 3 wood Adilla NVS 65 g X-Stiff
Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
Irons: Maltby TE Forged 5-PW TrueTemper X-300
Wedges: Maltby Tricept 52*/6, 56*/10; 60*/6 TrueTemper S-400
Putter: Yes! Emma 37" Belly Putter 
Ball: NXT Tour

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Okay, just curious since most people I've known who hit a fairway wood farther don't generate enough clubhead speed to use an X shaft. With a 270 yard 3-wood, you probably do. Personally I've always felt that shaft stiffness beyond R shafts has more to do with your transition speed than clubhead speed. I can hit R shafts or X shafts, but prefer S.

I had s300's but I would balloon the ball  I like the way x stiff feels alot better too.



What did you have the S300s in? Same irons? I find it hard to keep my short irons down with S300s in my old Mizunos, but the same shaft (theoretically - made > 10 years later) in my Clevelands is just fine. Anyway, yeah if you wanted to prevent ballooning shots an X shaft was the way to go.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

What did you have the S300s in? Same irons? I find it hard to keep my short irons down with S300s in my old Mizunos, but the same shaft (theoretically - made > 10 years later) in my Clevelands is just fine. Anyway, yeah if you wanted to prevent ballooning shots an X shaft was the way to go.


yeah same Irons.

My Bag: Nike Vapor X
Driver: Diablo Octane Tour Project 7.0  X-Stiff
Woods: Callaway RAZR 3 wood Adilla NVS 65 g X-Stiff
Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
Irons: Maltby TE Forged 5-PW TrueTemper X-300
Wedges: Maltby Tricept 52*/6, 56*/10; 60*/6 TrueTemper S-400
Putter: Yes! Emma 37" Belly Putter 
Ball: NXT Tour

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

What did you have the S300s in? Same irons? I find it hard to keep my short irons down with S300s in my old Mizunos, but the same shaft (theoretically - made > 10 years later) in my Clevelands is just fine. Anyway, yeah if you wanted to prevent ballooning shots an X shaft was the way to go.

yeah same Irons.



That's definitely the way to go - no bias from a different head design.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Okay, just curious since most people I've known who hit a fairway wood farther don't generate enough clubhead speed to use an X shaft. With a 270 yard 3-wood, you probably do. Personally I've always felt that shaft stiffness beyond R shafts has more to do with your transition speed than clubhead speed. I can hit R shafts or X shafts, but prefer S.



This is what I was thinking too but if you're hitting a 3-wood 270, then club head speed isn't your issue.

Is your ball flight different off of each club?  I'd guess your driver ball flight is much lower than your 3-wood?

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Originally Posted by Vladimir Puttin'

This is what I was thinking too but if you're hitting a 3-wood 270, then club head speed isn't your issue.

Is your ball flight different off of each club?  I'd guess your driver ball flight is much lower than your 3-wood?



Actually I can't keep the damn thing down with my driver

My Bag: Nike Vapor X
Driver: Diablo Octane Tour Project 7.0  X-Stiff
Woods: Callaway RAZR 3 wood Adilla NVS 65 g X-Stiff
Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
Irons: Maltby TE Forged 5-PW TrueTemper X-300
Wedges: Maltby Tricept 52*/6, 56*/10; 60*/6 TrueTemper S-400
Putter: Yes! Emma 37" Belly Putter 
Ball: NXT Tour

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

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Originally Posted by Vladimir Puttin'

This is what I was thinking too but if you're hitting a 3-wood 270, then club head speed isn't your issue.

Is your ball flight different off of each club?  I'd guess your driver ball flight is much lower than your 3-wood?

Actually I can't keep the damn thing down with my driver



Yeah, 270 off the turf is a good shot. If that's your approach with a driver you might want to consider meeting the ball a bit more horizontally - try a longer waggle with the club hovering at a constant height - just as a test..

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

Actually I can't keep the damn thing down with my driver



How high to you tee the ball up?  Do you have any impact tape that you can place on your driver?  I've noticed that sometimes if I tee the ball up too high - I start hitting the ball near the top line of the club face - which causes a higher ball flight and increases spin.  Thus it carries further - but doesn't roll out.  Alternatively... If I tee it up a little lower, the ball hits the sweet spot more often, and I get the optimal carry and roll.  It could be as simple as teeing the ball up properly - and placing it in the proper area of your stance - to catch the driver with the right attack angle.

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Originally Posted by MbolicGolf

275 with my 3 wood 15* 270 with my driver 9.5



If that's the case I'd probably just toss a ball down on the tee box and hit 3 wood off the deck instead of the driver...

Nothing wrong with 275...

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Originally Posted by Beachcomber

How high to you tee the ball up?  Do you have any impact tape that you can place on your driver?  I've noticed that sometimes if I tee the ball up too high - I start hitting the ball near the top line of the club face - which causes a higher ball flight and increases spin.  Thus it carries further - but doesn't roll out.  Alternatively... If I tee it up a little lower, the ball hits the sweet spot more often, and I get the optimal carry and roll.  It could be as simple as teeing the ball up properly - and placing it in the proper area of your stance - to catch the driver with the right attack angle.



I have not had the oportunity to test but I think that moving the ball to the inside heel from the toe and teeting it lower would helpw a whole lot. I started to hit the 3 wood "like an Iron" and I have had some really good results so I amd going to try the same for my driver. I also have shortened my driver to 44 1/2 from 45/12. I will let yall know how it works. I am actually lookign to put some Proforce v2's in both clubs with heavier shafts. I love the way they are on my hybrids.

My Bag: Nike Vapor X
Driver: Diablo Octane Tour Project 7.0  X-Stiff
Woods: Callaway RAZR 3 wood Adilla NVS 65 g X-Stiff
Hybrids: Taylor Made Burner Superlaunch 3-18*, 4-21*, UST Mamiya Proforce V2 75
Irons: Maltby TE Forged 5-PW TrueTemper X-300
Wedges: Maltby Tricept 52*/6, 56*/10; 60*/6 TrueTemper S-400
Putter: Yes! Emma 37" Belly Putter 
Ball: NXT Tour

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