Imagine if you will...

[darrylc]

Golf Experts:

Let us pretend a "friend" of mine comes to you and says "Hey, I want to learn how to hit a draw.  Oh, and by the way, here's a big bag of money if you can teach me."  You watch the student hit a few balls, and he has a bit of a push/fade ball flight.  In order of what would be most likely to get him to curve it the other way, what specific changes would you suggest?  The more specific the better (e.g.:  "hips pushed towards target at setup" vs "weight forward".

Any takers?

Thanks,

Snowbound

[MiniBlueDragon]

- Move the rear foot backward a little (toward the heel)

- Move the ball position toward the rear foot

- Strengthen the grip

- Swing as normal

That's how I personally hit a draw.

If your "friend" is already hitting pushes then you could just try a stronger grip, showing more knuckles on the left hand. That might be enough.

[james_hirshfield]

do ALL the pieces to draw the ball.

SETUP

PP3 Aft side

Hips forward

Handle forward and UP

Shoulders 10* closed.

BACKSWING

Turn hips

Hands IN

Arms straight

DOWNSWING

Hip slide

Hands DOWN (to keep shoulders from opening too fast)

Palmar flex

FOLLOW THROUGH

Tuck the butt

Arms straight AGAIN

Right foot 45* (controls spinning too fast)

Watch ball fly push draw!

For those who go ahead and DO this and immediately draw the ball, I accept all forms of compliments, including Paypal, check, cash, daughters, booking lessons etc etc..

James

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by darrylc

Golf Experts:

Let us pretend a "friend" of mine comes to you and says "Hey, I want to learn how to hit a draw.  Oh, and by the way, here's a big bag of money if you can teach me."  You watch the student hit a few balls, and he has a bit of a push/fade ball flight.  In order of what would be most likely to get him to curve it the other way, what specific changes would you suggest?  The more specific the better (e.g.:  "hips pushed towards target at setup" vs "weight forward".

Any takers?

Thanks,

Snowbound

He has a bit of a push fade, like it starts right then goes slightly farther right? He needs to get the clubface to meet the ball slightly closed to his current swingpath, as opposed to slightly open to his current swingpath. I'd check his grip and assuming it was neutral, ask him to set up with the face a bit more closed and make the same swing. Maybe he needs his clubs more upright or his swing a bit flatter. It's really hard to suggest what this one person should do to change his current swing to a more repeatable or powerful one, but since you're only asking about the ball flight, changing that is pretty straightforward.

[james_hirshfield]

hehe, don't get me wrong, i wouldn't give this to someone in a lesson.

If someone HAD to draw it, from slicing it, those would be the primary components IMO.

It depends what type of push fade, depending if you shift the path more rightward, or get the face more closed to the path., Perhaps a bit of both.

Might be neither, might be the 3rd accumulator rolling, which is a more complex understanding again.

[darrylc]

Gentlemen, Thank you for your replies. My "friend" is actually me. My ball flight almost always starts right and then stays straight or fades. If I am stubborn, I am straight at the target and shoot 95. When in a more accepting mood, I will aim left and scrape together a decent score. But, I figure unless I learn to move it right-to-left, I won't really know how to tame the fade that turns into a wicked slice. James - you are a funny, funny guy. I don't have a daughter, but do have Paypal....and pints of beer. I appreciate your extensive list. I need to research a few of the terms. Is Palmar flex the way Arnold would show his biceps?? :-D Off to the range! Darryl

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by darrylc

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your replies. My "friend" is actually me.

We all knew this already.....