New Irons... Lie Angle Question

[Island_Duffer]

So I recently got a set of Mizuno MX-19's. I had them custom ordered at 1 inch overlength and it was recommended to me by the fitter at Golftown to not have the lie angles adjusted until I was more familiar with the clubs.

So how long should I wait before I go back in for the lie fitting, or should I even bother? Looking at the range mat scuffs on the bottom it looks to me like I really don't even need the lie angles changed (scuff marks are pretty much in the middle of each club). Also, my ball flight is dead straight when I make a nice swing.

I'm a little worried about going in for lie adjustments and having unnecessary changes made. I hit the ball really poorly in the Golftown simulators (mental thing I think) and so I don't think the fitting will be an accurate representation of my real swing.

Any advice?

[CG031]

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Don't go in and change the clubs if you are hitting them well. You'll just lose confidence if you have a bad round or two after getting them changed.

[phicar2]

Follow up (stupid) question - is it that important that you hit the bottom? The reason I ask is I got fitted and I hit the ball straighter with a flatter lie 2 degree flat (so went with that) even though my marks were toward the toe - the marks were in the center of the club at 3 upright but I couldn't hit the ball straight just kept hitting draw/hooks.

[Island_Duffer]

OK, two good points there. I'm actually hitting my irons very well, so I'll just leave it as is.

Thanks for the help.

[beung]

Follow up (stupid) question - is it that important that you hit the bottom? The reason I ask is I got fitted and I hit the ball straighter with a flatter lie 2 degree flat (so went with that) even though my marks were toward the toe - the marks were in the center of the club at 3 upright but I couldn't hit the ball straight just kept hitting draw/hooks.

The reason you hit straighter with a more upright lie angle is because on the course, the grass and the ground acually has resistance and they cause your clubface to be more open at impact then on the hitting plate. Without the resistance on the toe of your club your clubface is a bit closed at impact.

[gas_can]

The reason you hit straighter with a more upright lie angle is because on the course, the grass and the ground acually has resistance and they cause your clubface to be more open at impact then on the hitting plate. Without the resistance on the toe of your club your clubface is a bit closed at impact.

beung,

This actually is not true. Turf interaction has negligible effect on lie angle interaction. It does however physically aim the club in a different direction. Loft is another big issue, the more loft there is, the greater the impact lie angle will have on shot direction. As others have said, if things are working, why worry about them. What matters is ball flight off grass when you're playing golf. Dynamic lie angle fittings are a good starting point, but they're not necessarily the be all end all. Many high handicappers swing changes enough throughout a season that getting a consistent dynamic fitting from month to month can be a challenge. However, just so people know, lie angle problems usually manifest themselves as consistent pushes (too flat) or pulls (too upright), there should be no abnormal curving of the ball because of lie angle problems. It is also important to remember that club length affects lie angle as well. For each half inch over a club is, it will effectively play one degree upright, for each half inch shorter a club is, it will play a degree flatter.